I have made this topic several times myself. I don’t reference communism. I just like a reminder of where the gun violence statistics other users tend to lean on actually come from.

What are you trying to say with this topic ? That local guns restrictions measures are killing more people ? ... Smart...

The metropolitan area around (and including) Melbourne is around 5.2 to 5.3 million. The metropolitan area around (and including) Chicago is almost 9.5 million.

Im sure he is not saying that cus that'd be dumb

and i told you a week or so ago you're strawmanning a lot there too. people bring up guns when a school shooting and you say "lol its actually gangs", people want to fix inner city violence and you say "lol too expensive, no".

this is base level dishonesty.

It could be considered strawmanning if I was presenting an argument, which I am not. I am just providing a small example of where the majority of statistics come from.

school shooting happens, "our gun deaths are simply too high, we need to do something". clearly eluding to the number of kids killed in schools, which is a monthly almost event at this point. "ummmmmm actchualllllyyyyyy those ummmmm gun stats you love so much to talk about are caused by gang shootings".

this is a double strawman, because the person eluding to gun stats is not only eluding to school shootings, but is also anti gun violence and wants to work on those gang shootings too. you don't, you're providing context in a gotcha attempt.

again, this has been done so many times in pard and in general society it's hack, it was hack 10 years ago. in general dont prevent stats on a "problem" you're not even interested in fixing, that's just a dishonest way to approach a conversation. unless your stats provide context on why the problem doesn't need to be fixed, like trans bathroom assaults, which almost dont exist. gang shootings show a clear picture, they need to be fixed in some way, and its gonna be expensive no matter which road we take.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Apr 12 2023 08:10am

Hilarious when people attempt relating a school shooting with an ar15 that left children dead to inner city violence.
Yes, the south side of Chicago is not a safe place. What is republicans answer?
Maybe if republicans would quit attempting to defund police, the south side of chi-town would approve.

Actually, it's Republicans who are trying to defund the police
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1273292
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/10/23/politics/fact-check-defund-the-police-ads-2022-midterms/index.html

This post was edited by said_aouita on Apr 12 2023 09:12am