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april first we gona get him trump cult
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Apr 3 2023 10:45am
Quote (IceMage @ Mar 31 2023 07:19am)
This is a thread devoted to posting material from the Trump cult.

The reaction to the indictment in New York has produced some unhinged stuff.

First up:

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1641781177626312710

https://i.imgur.com/kwgh81Q.jpg



Normal stuff. Obviously not a cult.



the democratic trump cult? its like the TV has made pres trump your permanent object for daily displacement &
its super face palm to be doing it in 2023.



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Apr 5 2023 01:14am
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1643395421652365312

A great example of how right-wing media operates. Jesse Watters mirrors the Trumpshill talking points that legitimate investigations of Trump and his associates are "personally orchestrated" by the presidents at the time, even though there's no evidence of that. The blame does not fall on Trump(and the cronies he hired) for the bad behavior, because, based on cult logic, Trump is not capable of bad behavior. The problem lies with the investigators tasked with looking into his bad behavior, and Obama/Biden for allowing an independent DOJ to run investigations without political interference.

Watters doesn't even bother presenting any evidence that Biden personally orchestrated any of these investigations... there's simply an assumption of corrupt wrongdoing of the sort that Trump tried(and failed) to do.
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Apr 5 2023 01:27am
Quote (IceMage @ Mar 31 2023 07:14pm)
The problem with equating the two is one side's position keeps getting stronger and the other side is on the verge of drinking poisoned koolaid.


"Yeah we both might be retarded but I'm the king of the retards!"


Great logic mate.
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Apr 5 2023 01:45am
Quote (IceMage @ Apr 5 2023 02:14am)
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1643395421652365312

A great example of how right-wing media operates. Jesse Watters mirrors the Trumpshill talking points that legitimate investigations of Trump and his associates are "personally orchestrated" by the presidents at the time, even though there's no evidence of that. The blame does not fall on Trump(and the cronies he hired) for the bad behavior, because, based on cult logic, Trump is not capable of bad behavior. The problem lies with the investigators tasked with looking into his bad behavior, and Obama/Biden for allowing an independent DOJ to run investigations without political interference.

Watters doesn't even bother presenting any evidence that Biden personally orchestrated any of these investigations... there's simply an assumption of corrupt wrongdoing of the sort that Trump tried(and failed) to do.


We spent several years of the Crossfire Hurricane campaign being told it had nothing to do with Obama or Biden and was entirely the product of apolitical actors in the DoJ. We saw their obvious political affiliations and motivations and conspiracies at face value, but only much later did we learn Obama just straight up hosted Comey & Yates & co in the oval office with Biden present (on January 5th, 2017), just to give express permission to go ahead with trying to persecute Trump. That's one problem with a regime that centralizes authority, even for all the bias and enmity the toadies held, they were still too afraid of acting independently that they needed a face-to-face meeting that stripped Obama of his ability to keep his hands clean of the affair. We know that Obama and Biden both signed off on it personally. And all they can say in defense is that he only ordered them to rid them of his turbulent priest 'by the book'

Right now we have no evidence Biden personally orchestrated this investigation. None at all as far as I'm aware. And if anything I'd personally doubt it, because the fall of Afghanistan showed that instead of a wizard behind a curtain, we have a geriatric asleep at the wheel. But there's certainly plenty of reason to speculate its possible. In another 6 years, will we be talking about how Biden and Harris tried to have a meeting with Bragg's daughter to pass along orders to get the orange man, but Biden spoiled it by trying to grope her?

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 5 2023 01:48am
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Apr 5 2023 01:52am
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We spent several years of the Crossfire Hurricane campaign being told it had nothing to do with Obama or Biden and was entirely the product of apolitical actors in the DoJ. We saw their obvious political affiliations and motivations and conspiracies at face value, but only much later did we learn Obama just straight up hosted Comey & Yates & co in the oval office with Biden present (on January 5th, 2017), just to give express permission to go ahead with trying to persecute Trump. That's one problem with a regime that centralizes authority, even for all the bias and enmity the toadies held, they were still too afraid of acting independently that they needed a face-to-face meeting that stripped Obama of his ability to keep his hands clean of the affair. We know that Obama and Biden both signed off on it personally. And all they can say in defense is that he only ordered them to rid them of his turbulent priest 'by the book'

Right now we have no evidence Biden personally orchestrated this investigation. None at all as far as I'm aware. And if anything I'd personally doubt it, because the fall of Afghanistan showed that instead of a wizard behind a curtain, we have a geriatric asleep at the wheel. But there's certainly plenty of reason to speculate its possible. In another 6 years, will we be talking about how Biden and Harris tried to have a meeting with Bragg's daughter to pass along orders to get the orange man, but Biden spoiled it by trying to grope her?


Evidence?
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Apr 5 2023 02:29am
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Evidence?


Susan Rice's email in which she conspicuously ass-covered by documenting it in an email sent to herself claiming Obama only told them to go 'by the book'. It was pretty bizarre for someone to mail themselves a copy of a message saying they did nothing wrong about a secret meeting they spent the next few years pretending never happened

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000172-2e48-d57a-ad7b-7e6f97060000

Per the timeline, that meeting came 2 weeks before Comey and McCabe did their ambush on Flynn.

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Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 5 2023 04:29am)
Susan Rice's email in which she conspicuously ass-covered by documenting it in an email sent to herself claiming Obama only told them to go 'by the book'. It was pretty bizarre for someone to mail themselves a copy of a message saying they did nothing wrong about a secret meeting they spent the next few years pretending never happened

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000172-2e48-d57a-ad7b-7e6f97060000

Per the timeline, that meeting came 2 weeks before Comey and McCabe did their ambush on Flynn.




Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 5 2023 03:45am)
We spent several years of the Crossfire Hurricane campaign being told it had nothing to do with Obama or Biden and was entirely the product of apolitical actors in the DoJ. We saw their obvious political affiliations and motivations and conspiracies at face value, but only much later did we learn Obama just straight up hosted Comey & Yates & co in the oval office with Biden present (on January 5th, 2017), just to give express permission to go ahead with trying to persecute Trump.



In what upside down world do the contents of this email match the bullshit you are claiming?
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Apr 5 2023 05:30am
Honestly it's hilarious to read Trumpshill's characterization of the Oval Office conversation and the reality of it.

Obama opens that he's trying to be sure the team doesn't do anything improper, but if the incoming National Security Adviser is a Russian agent, DONT SHARE INFORMATION. They had intelligence information that Trump, or anybody else, did not have. So Obama was just doing due diligence.

Those officials did not ask Flynn to compromise himself... he did it willingly. Thus, he was scrutinized.

This post was edited by IceMage on Apr 5 2023 05:32am
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Apr 5 2023 05:43am
The 34 felony counts have been revealed, and contrary to some poster's hopes, there are no secret charges based on hitherto unknown evidence, the charges are misdemeanors beyond the statute of limitations, which we know certainly wouldn't have been charged even if they weren't. What makes this especially egregious is that Bragg was going to charge Trump irrespective of what he did. Had he claimed the Stormy Daniels payment as a campaign expense, we'd have Bragg alleging that Trump committed several dozen counts of campaign finance fraud.
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