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Jun 8 2021 07:18am
Quote (TiStuff @ Jun 8 2021 06:12am)
bull chit, you lefties never provide any thing but assertion and wrap up smears. you are all brainwashed TDS frauds

bogus joe *president

and you didnt vote


lol shut up..
please explain what "wrap up smears" have to do with vote counts.
you the only one with TDS.
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Jun 8 2021 07:27am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 8 2021 06:18am)
lol shut up..
please explain what "wrap up smears" have to do with vote counts.
you the only one with TDS.



clear undeniable proof the democrat party is dirty. they openly display with out shame their deceitful nature, brag about it even. but somehow they are super duper honest about elections.
their is some kind of problem taht you cant see that their is some kind of problem. i think its the TDS programming.

all you leftie fraud do is say over and over berszzzt......election was legit..............berszzzt......election was legit..............berszzzt......election was legit..............berszzzt......election was legit.............. like robots but never have anything to offer in support of the assertions
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Jun 8 2021 07:31am
Quote (theCrossbones @ 8 Jun 2021 15:03)
because of the GQP crazy talk is the ONLY reason this exists.
There has NEVER been any proof of voter fraud on any substantial level.
regardless how many times TI and dark post otherwise.
welcome to the big lie party


This is not about voter fraud, it is about Democrats trying to push through their wishlist in terms of election reform to tip the scales in their favor.

For example, this bill, HR1 or the 'For the People Act', would make Election Day a national holiday for federal workers. In other words: the party of big governments wants to make it a holiday for one specific group of workers which, by sheer "coincidence", happens to be massively D-leaning (because their jobs literally depend on the scope of the federal government), but not for everyone else? Like... are you fucking kidding me? No one in their right mind can claim that this is a good faith bill by the Dems.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 8 2021 07:32am
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Quote (TiStuff @ Jun 8 2021 06:27am)
clear undeniable proof the democrat party is dirty. they openly display with out shame their deceitful nature, brag about it even. but somehow they are super duper honest about elections.
their is some kind of problem taht you cant see that their is some kind of problem. i think its the TDS programming.

all you leftie fraud do is say over and over berszzzt......election was legit..............berszzzt......election was legit..............berszzzt......election was legit..............berszzzt......election was legit.............. like robots but never have anything to offer in support of the assertions


no...
there have been countless audits.. its not just "berzzzzz" or whatever the fuck that is.
even R, trump appointed judges have rejected claims of voter fraud.
GTFOH
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This is not about voter fraud, it is about Democrats trying to push through their wishlist in terms of election reform.

For example, this bill, HR1 or the 'For the People Act', would make Election Day a national holiday for federal workers. In other words: the party of big governments wants to make it a holiday for one specific group of workers which, by sheer "coincidence", happens to be massively D-leaning (because their jobs literally depend on the scope of the federal government), but not for everyone else? Like... are you fucking kidding me? No one in their right mind can claim that this is a good faith bill by the Dems.


wait. this big conversation of re working our entire voting system is pushed by D?
seriously.. LOL

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/07/964598941/after-record-2020-turnout-state-republicans-weigh-making-it-harder-to-vote
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/529570-legislatures-across-country-plan-sweeping-election-reform-push
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/28/970877930/why-republicans-are-moving-to-fix-elections-that-werent-broken
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-democrats-push-pass-election-reforms-gop-moves/story?id=76182685

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wait. this big conversation of re working our entire voting system is pushed by D?
seriously.. LOL


The larger discussion is happening on both sides of the political spectrum. However, the specific bill Manchin (and in this thread Bogie and me) was talking about is not addressing, or inspired by, voter fraud at all - it's addressing a partisan proposal for election reform.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 8 2021 06:34am)
The larger discussion is happening on both sides of the political spectrum. However, the specific bill Manchin (and in this thread Bogie and me) was talking about is not addressing, or inspired by, voter fraud at all - it's addressing a partisan proposal for election reform.


fair enough.. but to say election reform is being pushed by D isnt' true.
They are reacting to an overwhelming amount of R states trying to break a not broken system.. Secretaries of state can overturn results they dont like? etc. was one that was a proposal that I heard.
It simply more TDS loss reaction from the GOP.

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Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 8 2021 06:32am)
no...
there have been countless audits.. its not just "berzzzzz" or whatever the fuck that is.
even R, trump appointed judges have rejected claims of voter fraud.
GTFOH


"berzzzzz"................... is your robot noise. the courts pusssed out and failed nothing ever went to court.

all you offer is saying the same thing over and over. i understand its what you believe but that doesnt make it a convincing argument. especially coming from the TDS and wrap up smear people.

if the fraud lefties where legit they woulnt have a problem with audits and be ready with their receipts to destroy the claims in court. but thats not what they are doing they just screech and bich about it trying to block it

and you didnt vote
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This post was edited by TiStuff on Jun 8 2021 08:10am
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Quote (theCrossbones @ 8 Jun 2021 15:41)
fair enough.. but to say election reform is being pushed by D isnt' true.
They are reacting to an overwhelming amount of R states trying to break a not broken system.. Secretaries of state can overturn results they dont like? etc. was one that was a proposal that I heard.
It simply more TDS loss reaction from the GOP.


I think we really have to distinguish between normal partisan bickering over election rules on the one side, and attempts to establish blatantly undemocratic provisions on the other.


The Dems did a good job seizing the opportunity presented by the unique pandemic environment to push through changes which, on balance, benefitted them electorally, like expanded mail-in voting, same day registration, early voting and so on. They often times passed these changes via executive or judicial fiat. It is fair if the GOP tries to roll these back.

On the other hand, stuff like giving the governor or the state legislature the right to overturn the popular vote and certify their state for the candidate who lost it, is a complete non-starter and ridiculous. To be fair though, suggestions in this direction have mostly come from the far-right fringe, the hardcore tankies trumpies, not from mainstream Republicans.

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I think we really have to distinguish between normal partisan bickering over election rules on the one side, and attempts to establish blatantly undemocratic provisions on the other.


The Dems did a good job seizing the opportunity presented by the unique pandemic environment to push through changes which, on balance, benefitted them electorally, like expanded mail-in voting, same day registration, early voting and so on. They often times passed these changes via executive or judicial fiat. It is fair if the GOP tries to roll these back.

On the other hand, stuff like giving the governor or the state legislature the right to overturn the popular vote and certify their state for the candidate who lost it, is a complete non-starter and ridiculous. To be fair though, suggestions in this direction have mostly come from the far-right fringe, the hardcore tankies trumpies, not from mainstream Republicans.


I think this is a huge talking point.. Was thinking about making a thread over this tbh.
Is it even constitutional to have federal voting laws, does the Fed. have the power to dictated how states vote..
On the other hand, Do we just cut TX ( or example) off of the US and let them secede from the union because letting State Legislators cherry picking results..(as an example) isn't even democracy.
doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground here.
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