Poor shills calls the most successful real estate in the developer in the world and the most successful politician in the past 30 years a buffoon. I guess its game over now.

imma save this one for the post general quotes after he gets raped in the electorate.

His return on capital has been unimpressive. He has slightly underperformed the market over the last few decades.

It's not a ringing endorsement for his business acumen.

businesses that paid payroll to tens of thousands of workers, a lot of which were/are middle/working class and spend a lot of their monies. not to mention all the other indirect labor created due to his/companies projects. this is useful for economies to thrive. plus all those taxes the govt gets from all these sources.
those that use this argument would rather have him parked his money at goldman with some already rich evil banker making his fees off doing nothing but investing in low-risk steady growth funds while Trump sat there doing nothing.

Trump's businesses are charities now? His goal has been to maximize his wealth, he's down a pretty lackluster job.

Bold - I swear Trump supporters are all leftists.

billionaire is lackluster, got it.


This post was edited by excellence on Jul 7 2016 08:27am

Sitting on a billion dollars is not impressive in its own right. Relativity isn't a hard concept to grasp. You can make $17,000,000 a year buying $1,000,000,000 worth of 10-year treasuries. Your rate of return (~1.7%) is far less impressive than turning $17,000,000 from an investment of $1,000,000 (1700%).

Trump's business ventures under-performed relative to what you'd expect given his substantial inheritance and the significant assistance he received from his father. He started with a lot and made relatively little. He didn't have a bad career, just a thoroughly unimpressive one.

I thought he was talking about Clinton with that line, in a compare and contrast with Trump being most successful real estate developer and Clinton being the most successful politician.

That is the only way that sentence makes any sense.



Having managed to keep the money he inherited is impressive for the decadent 1%.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jul 7 2016 09:34am

I can't even read it that way, due to the "a buffoon" line coming after the successful politician one.

its pretty hilarious however on both accounts, he hasn't won an office to prove he's a successful politician and worldwide there are MANY developers more successful than Trump. How do you think Dubai skyscraper developers compare to Trump who has a sea of red tape to swim through every time he wants to make a hot dog stand in terms of profit? What about chinese skyline developers who use borderline slave labor and fill walls with empty paint cans to cut corners?

just an all around EndlessSky worthy post devoid of any facts that can be backed.

I'd say there are 3 main reasons:

1) "Historical" - Primary turnout has had no correlation to GE turnout over the past 50 years
2) This primary's weird turnout specifically - millions of Dems crossed over to vote in GOP primaries, against Trump, and people are naively assuming those were Republicans voting
3) Post-primary dynamic - Trump has literally no campaign infrastructure, he's relying 100% on the RNC, and while they are operating at a much higher level than they were in 2012, they're still competing against the DNC and a Clinton campaign that is absolutely dominating the battlegrounds right now on the ground. Trump also obviously turns tens of millions of people off with his rhetoric and that's going to depress voters.

There could be more but those are 3 big ones. There's also the small problem of Trump always saying that he's going to try to win this state or that state, yesterday it was Connecticut and Oregon, before that it was Maine and Minnesota, back before it was Washington and New Jersey (before looking across the room to Chris Christie for assurance). He hasn't actually made the mistake of sinking money or resources into these states (because he doesn't have any), but if he doesn't focus in on the 8-10 states that'll decide the winner he could end up being severely outmatched in just a couple of them and that'd be a deficit on the ground that can't be made up.