Quote (Bazi @ Nov 8 2023 08:10pm)

MANY of the people staying in hospitals are not held hostage, rather they are not leaving patients behind who are absolutely unable to leave the hospital

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk7iWgCk14U

There seems to be a fundamental lack of understanding how hospitals work here. Also a lack of acknowledging that if you are a doctor or a nurse working in a hospital, it’s morally crippling to just leave defenseless patients behind.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 8 2023 08:10pm)

It would not surprise me if they were assassinated.

Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 8 2023 07:48pm)

Gazans moving south with a cover from the idf.
Thousands are being held hostage by Hamas in hospitals

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 8 2023 02:10pm)

It would not surprise me if they were assassinated.

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Perhaps, but one Israeli government official describes Mashaal as a “radical” whose views differ little from those of Hamas’s Gaza-based military commanders. And undermining Mashaal has become a central component of Israel’s wartime public relations effort, which portrays the Palestinian as a kind of limousine jihadist. “This guy Khaled Mashaal, he’s roaming around, five-star hotel suites in the Gulf states, he’s having the time of his life, while he’s deliberately putting his people as fodder for this horrible terrorist war that they’re conducting against us,” Netanyahu told CNN on July 20. A few days later, two Gaza television outlets aired a peculiar clip of Mashaal speaking in public. “In the name of Allah, most gracious, most compassionate,” he began, “I want to start by thanking the excellent staff of the kitchen at my hotel.” He went on to explain that his hotel room had cost as much as “a hospital and three tunnels in Gaza.” According to the Jerusalem Post, Israeli operatives had hacked into the television networks and broadcast the hoax video, dubbing fake audio over authentic footage.

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 8 2023 08:32pm)

Israel tried to assassinate at least one of them before. Poisoned Khaled Mashaal, Bill Clinton forced Netanyahu to send the antidote after he initially refused.

https://time.com/khaled-mashaal/

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Quote (darksoho @ Nov 8 2023 12:32pm)

some are staying for the sake of staying - knowing the IDF will not blow it up to the heavens while they are in there. some are hostages by force of a child or two taken away under the hospital, they give them food and "saftey" while the rest of the family waits.
some are simply Hamas supporters brain washed the same as those soon to be washed away terrorists under the surface.



you mean the nazi-terrorists in suits ? they are done. it might happen 5-10 years away from today, but they are marked for good. no one knows when, but it's a matter of place and time.
the bottom line is that it's gonna be an Israeli hand to do it, as tit should.




yeah saw it up close, some guys from my unit are doing some work inside.

Quote (Bazi @ 8 Nov 2023 20:46)

Sure. The point however is this notion that everyone who stayed behind in a given hospital is Hamas , or a Hamas hostage, is just incorrect.

Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 8 2023 01:11pm)

They have given the order to evac from a legitimate target.

Good luck to them when IDF enters.

Quote (Bazi @ Nov 8 2023 12:10pm)

There seems to be a fundamental lack of understanding how hospitals work here. Also a lack of acknowledging that if you are a doctor or a nurse working in a hospital, it’s morally crippling to just leave defenseless patients behind.

Quote (Bazi @ Nov 8 2023 09:28pm)

The asthmatics and copd-ers on supplemental oxygen
The cardiac patients on heparin drips
The septic patients on iv fluids and iv antibiotics

I can go on forever

Do people understand what a patient is? Patients cannot just pick themselves up by their bootstraps

And then there are the

The nurses that won’t leave
The docs that won’t leave

My point precisely that the general public has zero clue how healthcare functions and the survivor guilt mentality demonstrated by many healthcare workers.


Agree though. Goodluck to them

Quote (WhiteSouned @ Nov 8 2023 02:02pm)

If Israel was so ruthless as some are portraying in this thread, this bizarre nest of healthcare and terror would have already been in rabbles.

Quote (Bazi @ 8 Nov 2023 22:06)

Israel can do worse, there is really no argument there

The point is this propaganda that hospitals are majorly terrorist hubs with hostages should be called out, as if the majority of people inside are not either sick or healthcare workers.

If you’re using the ends justify the means argument, don’t sugar coat it