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Nov 24 2020 10:29am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 24 2020 11:20am)
Asking for recounts in states where the outcome was decided by literally tens of thousands of votes out of millions or filing lawsuits is within the bounds of democracy and should be expected.

He conceded as soon as Georgia and Michigan votes were certified, so why is that so outrageous? I mean we knew for months before the election that it might take us weeks to know who won and that's exactly what happened when the dust settled. So you sound mighty dumb for saying he and his followers tried stealing the election when in reality exactly what we expected to happen happened.


I can't have a discussion with people who don't follow the news.
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Nov 24 2020 10:31am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 24 2020 11:26am)
Has he conceded?


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Donald Trump has accepted a formal US transition should begin for President-elect Joe Biden to take office.

The president said the federal agency overseeing the handover must "do what needs to be done", even as he vowed to keep contesting his election defeat.

The General Services Administration (GSA) said it was acknowledging Mr Biden as the "apparent winner".

It came as Mr Biden's victory in the state of Michigan was officially certified, a major blow to Mr Trump.


https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55052640

Michigan certifies -> Trump accepts defeat informally.

Quote (IceMage @ Nov 24 2020 11:29am)
I can't have a discussion with people who don't follow the news.


Trump trying to steal elections!!! reee

Whatever news you're following is propaganda chicken little

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 24 2020 10:32am
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Nov 24 2020 10:35am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 24 2020 11:28am)
How can you compare previous elections 'irregularities' to something like this cycle when you had multitudes of people voting by mail which adds risks with the potential chain of custody.

This was entirely new to have mail-ins at this magnitude and didn't exist for many years prior to this year.


Irregularities of a new variety are not exempt from partisan hackery
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/09/24/trump-tells-floridians-to-request-mail-in-ballots-after-call-to-get-rid-of-the-ballots/amp/

Mail in votes bad in states going blue, mail in votes in states going red are ok because reasons 👌
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Nov 24 2020 10:37am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 24 2020 11:31am)
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55052640

Michigan certifies -> Trump accepts defeat informally.



Trump trying to steal elections!!! reee

Whatever news you're following is propaganda chicken little


This is in the article you linked saying he conceded?

He did not concede, however, and went on to repeat unsubstantiated claims of corruption, pledging to keep up the "good fight". It is worth noting that Mr Trump does not have to concede for Mr Biden to be sworn in as the 46th US president.
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Nov 24 2020 10:38am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 24 2020 11:31am)
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55052640

Michigan certifies -> Trump accepts defeat informally.



Trump trying to steal elections!!! reee

Whatever news you're following is propaganda chicken little


The head of GSA said the decision to move forward was hers... but even if Trump gave the go ahead, that's not conceding the election.

It's simply a fact that Trump has tried to steal the election. For the millionth time, I don't know why you come here to discuss topics that you are completely uninformed on.
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Nov 24 2020 10:43am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 24 2020 10:31am)
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55052640

Michigan certifies -> Trump accepts defeat informally.

Trump trying to steal elections!!! reee

Whatever news you're following is propaganda chicken little


but where did Trump accept defeat? Has he admitted it anywhere?
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Nov 24 2020 10:50am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Nov 24 2020 10:43am)
but where did Trump accept defeat? Has he admitted it anywhere?


Admitted defeat, of course not.

but we can all admit this sounds decidedly not Trumpian:

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Mr Trump said: "In the best interest of our Country, I am recommending that Emily and her team do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols, and have told my team to do the same."
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Nov 24 2020 10:50am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 24 2020 11:20am)
Asking for recounts in states where the outcome was decided by literally tens of thousands of votes out of millions or filing lawsuits is within the bounds of democracy and should be expected.

He conceded as soon as Georgia and Michigan votes were certified, so why is that so outrageous? I mean we knew for months before the election that it might take us weeks to know who won and that's exactly what happened when the dust settled. So you sound mighty dumb for saying he and his followers tried stealing the election when in reality exactly what we expected to happen happened.


This is the problem with the right wing side of TDS. Its like you guys live in a second realm of existence.
No one has a problem with asking GA for a recount with a 10k margin. They even have it set to auto recount at specific numbers because of how normal a process it is.
To pretend that is all that took place is contrary to basic reality.
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Nov 24 2020 10:54am
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 24 2020 10:50am)
Admitted defeat, of course not.

but we can all admit this sounds decidedly not Trumpian:


Sounds like a concession in only the loosest sense.

We have real concessions to compare against. I don't trust Trump to ever actually concede or admit he lost.
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Nov 24 2020 10:55am
Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 24 2020 11:37am)
This is in the article you linked saying he conceded?

He did not concede, however, and went on to repeat unsubstantiated claims of corruption, pledging to keep up the "good fight". It is worth noting that Mr Trump does not have to concede for Mr Biden to be sworn in as the 46th US president.


You won't ever get a clear cut concession out of Trump and he will continue to flail and go on with these lawsuits that will prove meaningless purely out of pride, as he fades out of relevance in the next few months, so what?

The fact he's saying things like "do what needs to be done" is a pretty obvious informal concession. He's not taking to Twitter and trying to mobilize militias, he's not calling his supporters to do something, he's not firing officials that are moving to transition, and so on. There are many ways he can actually contest this election that would qualify as trying to create some insurrection or unwillingness to transition but what we're seeing is the equivalent
of a Karp flailing in a bucket.

Quote (IceMage @ Nov 24 2020 11:38am)
The head of GSA said the decision to move forward was hers... but even if Trump gave the go ahead, that's not conceding the election.

It's simply a fact that Trump has tried to steal the election. For the millionth time, I don't know why you come here to discuss topics that you are completely uninformed on.


lawsuits and recounts =/= stealing elections. If there was any meaningful attempt of him trying to 'steal' the election and create some insurrection it would be evident in financial markets with the market dropping, instead it's rocking higher every day. Smart people know how to weigh real risk and bullshit eye-grabbing headlines apparently you're not one of them though.

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