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May 18 2020 08:30pm
FOX news warning it's viewers: To stress this the medication has been shown to kill at risk people.. Please pay attention "it will kill you"
LOL
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May 18 2020 08:31pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 18 2020 09:28pm)
Yeah, and that's a bad way of looking at it. To see the impact of Covid, you need to look at how many more people are dying than during normal times while Covid is active in a particular country.
Also, like I already said: the excess curves are only coming down rather quickly (after going through the roof) because of social distancing measures. If we had just allowed the virus to run its course, we'd be talking about 400% excess mortality instead of 29% or so.

And just for the record: I'm not pushing a narrative. If anything, I'm more supportive of (carefully and gradually) reopening than staying closed. I am in the camp of those who have been saying since the very beginning that there of course is a tradeoff between human life and economic losses, I've always been in the camp of those who said that we should not pay any price, no matter how absurdly high, to save every last life. For the most part, my perspective on Covid is consistent with conservative/right-wing ideology. I just dont dispute some basic facts:

- this virus is more dangerous than the flu
- letting it spread unchecked is not a feasible option
- continuing the lockdowns for more than around 8 weeks is not feasible either
- some degree of temporary social distancing was necessary
- the U.S. government has badly mishandled the situation


Numbers are going down in the U.S.

It's time to start reopening slowly, with social distancing in place, while monitoring, and reclosing as needed if the numbers look exponential again.
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May 18 2020 08:38pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ 19 May 2020 04:30)
FOX news warning it's viewers: To stress this the medication has been shown to kill at risk people.. Please pay attention "it will kill you"
LOL


I heard bleach enema has a strong potential
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May 18 2020 08:41pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 18 2020 07:38pm)
I heard bleach enema has a strong potential


how do people still defend this trump guy..
"I banned China"
called it a Democratic hoax
promised it would disappear by april
told you a medicine was able to cure it.
Dr's prove this medicine makes MORE people die.
Asked you to look into disinfected inside the body
Don't want to test because positive results make the US look bad
claims to take medicine that cures/kills you..
Just a few tidbits of idiocy. The full story I don't have days for.
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May 18 2020 08:45pm
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Numbers are going down in the U.S.

It's time to start reopening slowly, with social distancing in place, while monitoring, and reclosing as needed if the numbers look exponential again.


I know. I was just trying to argue against Bob's stance that the virus is no worse than the flu and that we should not have put in place any social distancing or other restrictions.


Regarding slowly reopening, I really like the system we're using here in Germany: all of our counties have to keep track of their new cases, and when the 7-day incidence per 100k exceeds 50 cases, then this county has to delay the phasing out of restrictions, or even re-impose some restrictions. This way, local outbreaks dont drag down the entire state or even the whole country.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 May 2020 20:45)
I know. I was just trying to argue against Bob's stance that the virus is no worse than the flu and that we should not have put in place any social distancing or other restrictions.


Regarding slowly reopening, I really like the system we're using here in Germany: all of our counties have to keep track of their new cases, and when the 7-day incidence per 100k exceeds 50 cases, then this county has to delay the phasing out of restrictions, or even re-impose some restrictions. This way, local outbreaks dont drag down the entire state or even the whole country.


That's some really smart and nuanced governing.

I also like the way Texas Governor Greg Abbott has handled COVID-19 restrictions in one aspect. From the onset, rather than issuing state-wide policies for the huge state, he left it up to local and county governments to decide what measures they wanted to take.

Sure, that local approach could result in disjointed government with ramifications for sorrounding larger regions, but I also appreciate the flexibility in light of some states who shut down entire business sectors despite some smaller counties of those states having hardly any community spread.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ May 18 2020 10:31pm)
Numbers are going down in the U.S.

It's time to start reopening slowly, with social distancing in place, while monitoring, and reclosing as needed if the numbers look exponential again.


The purpose of distancing is to keep the healthcare system from being overrun, which isnt even close to happening. Only minor measures are necessary.

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The purpose of distancing is to keep the healthcare system from being overrun, which isnt even close to happening. Only minor measures are necessary.


Time for mass praying IMO
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May 19 2020 07:34am
Quote (theCrossbones @ May 18 2020 10:41pm)
how do people still defend this trump guy..
"I banned China"
called it a Democratic hoax
promised it would disappear by april
told you a medicine was able to cure it.
Dr's prove this medicine makes MORE people die.
Asked you to look into disinfected inside the body
Don't want to test because positive results make the US look bad
claims to take medicine that cures/kills you..
Just a few tidbits of idiocy. The full story I don't have days for.


Morbidly obese president taking unproven treatment lol.
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May 19 2020 08:21am
Quote (Skinned @ May 19 2020 06:34am)
Morbidly obese president taking unproven treatment lol.


best plan he has had yet..
unfortunately he is probably lying again.
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