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Jan 17 2022 12:43pm
Quote (sirthom @ Jan 17 2022 12:16pm)
Only if you see fundamental building blocks as something that is bad.
Very unfounded indeed.


*too many* "fundamental building blocks."

You go way out of your way to marginalize our pollution. Just because "trees breathe CO2" does not mean we're absolved of polluting.
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Jan 17 2022 12:50pm
Quote (Santara @ Jan 17 2022 12:43pm)
*too many* "fundamental building blocks."

You go way out of your way to marginalize our pollution. Just because "trees breathe CO2" does not mean we're absolved of polluting.


Carbon and oxygen are not pollution and never have been.
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Jan 17 2022 12:57pm
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Carbon and oxygen are not pollution and never have been.


That's pretty silly. There are tons of chemicals that are only composed of carbon oxygen and hydrogen that you would absolutely think are pollutants.
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Jan 17 2022 12:59pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 17 2022 12:57pm)
That's pretty silly. There are tons of chemicals that are only composed of carbon oxygen and hydrogen that you would absolutely think are pollutants.


Do trees breathe any of them?
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Jan 17 2022 01:26pm
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Do trees breathe any of them?


Absolutely, hormones like ethene are specifically taken in to trigger ripening of fruit.

Something being natural or used by plants has never been a criteria for whether or not it's polluting

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Absolutely, hormones like ethene are specifically taken in to trigger ripening of fruit.

Something being natural or used by plants has never been a criteria for whether or not it's polluting


Now we are back to the same impasse.
You worship science.
I say science is corrupted.
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Jan 17 2022 01:54pm
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Jan 17 2022 01:58pm
Quote (sirthom @ Jan 17 2022 01:54pm)
Now we are back to the same impasse.
You worship science.
I say science is corrupted.


Nah, I don't "worship" anything. I am highly critical of every piece of science I read. No scientist uncritically accepts the conclusions of other scientists. Thats why we have things like peer review and replication studies.

My PI during graduate school would regularly present papers from big labs just to shit on them and point out how even big notable labs can produce garbage.
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Nah, I don't "worship" anything. I am highly critical of every piece of science I read. No scientist uncritically accepts the conclusions of other scientists. Thats why we have things like peer review and replication studies.

My PI during graduate school would regularly present papers from big labs just to shit on them and point out how even big notable labs can produce garbage.


But the big notable labs used peer reviews and replication studies.
How can they produce garbage?

Moot question.
If base data is manipulated, you can get peer reviews and replication studies to corroborate anything.
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Jan 17 2022 03:11pm
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Carbon and oxygen are not pollution and never have been.


How about you go wrap your white power lips around the tailpipe of your car and breathe the exhaust? It's "just carbon, nitrogen, oxygen and hydrogen." Totally natural.
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