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Jan 8 2022 01:47am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 8 2022 07:19pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tflHG_tORCw Heres a cop arresting a kid for walking home.
Does he look afraid to abuse his power?
Does the officer at the jail look afraid when he threatens to punch the kid in the face because he can?
Muggers on the street have no idea who has a gun or who doesn't and they still mug people.


Does the kid carry a gun?

Muggers pick easy pray, people who like university students, women and anyone who isn't 200 pounds and looks like they can take care of themselves. And bet you muggers don't try to mug a person if they do see a gun or a dont tread of me patch. A truck driver or a business owner who might be jumped by some scum has a way to protect themselves and their family. Why does this need to be explained or maybe you think everyone is a black belt krav maga expert who is a able to defend themselves in a likely event of antifa or blm smashing through your house or store?

End of the day its my god given right to bear arms and not up for debate. I can give all kinds of justifications and reasons for me to own guns but I shouldn't have to.
You can point to all kinds of statistics but its people who kill not the guns. Its a tool that's used for many very good and beneficial reasons. By taking away guns you simply take away one tool to be replaced by some other tool. Criminals are not going away. Statistics will be increased for knives, icepicks and hammers all you are doing is trading homicide weapon of choice, besides criminals are still going to have guns anyway though underground illegal trade. All you are doing is trying to punish responsible people, while taking means of self defence.

This post was edited by addone on Jan 8 2022 02:14am
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Jan 8 2022 02:56am
Think of guns like ENIGMA runeword. Lets say there are these nasty tpk gang of players who actively joins other peoples games hostiles them and tries to kill noobs. Now with enigma they are very effective because they just tele and bam.
Everyone has enjoyed benefits of enigma, it provides much needed speed boost to your runs, many different build paths and general safety being able to escape from a tight situation.

Here comes a squad of maple story soys and beta pre LOD boomers who obviously feel threatened because people are dying in blood moor. Its sad the statistics are saying enigma is a leading cause of ears. They will tell you things like its a job of the mods to and game devs remove this item from the game.

The devs listen and finally remove the item from the game. Hoorah! fireworks everyone is saved now!

Little Timmy is now forced to spend 15mins per run instead of his usual 3.5. Susie is staring at "you have died" screen on her hardcore nec all because she was trapped by a pack of extra strong, extra fast of Blood Lords.
Meanwhile the tpk gang has duped enigmas and utilising ammy with tele charges to carry on their kill count. Its never been easier to catch a running druid.

The maple story soys are still crying about hammers being broken but they cant change that because it would be racist to paladins. And I am here sitting wtf am I still doing explaining this detailed story?
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Jan 8 2022 04:19am
Quote (addone @ Jan 8 2022 06:47pm)
Does the kid carry a gun?

Muggers pick easy pray, people who like university students, women and anyone who isn't 200 pounds and looks like they can take care of themselves. And bet you muggers don't try to mug a person if they do see a gun or a dont tread of me patch. A truck driver or a business owner who might be jumped by some scum has a way to protect themselves and their family. Why does this need to be explained or maybe you think everyone is a black belt krav maga expert who is a able to defend themselves in a likely event of antifa or blm smashing through your house or store?

End of the day its my god given right to bear arms and not up for debate. I can give all kinds of justifications and reasons for me to own guns but I shouldn't have to.
You can point to all kinds of statistics but its people who kill not the guns. Its a tool that's used for many very good and beneficial reasons. By taking away guns you simply take away one tool to be replaced by some other tool. Criminals are not going away. Statistics will be increased for knives, icepicks and hammers all you are doing is trading homicide weapon of choice, besides criminals are still going to have guns anyway though underground illegal trade. All you are doing is trying to punish responsible people, while taking means of self defence.


If the kid had a gun he would likely be dead right now.
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Jan 8 2022 06:21am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jan 8 2022 11:19pm)
If the kid had a gun he would likely be dead right now.


Or maybe you are drawing conclusions? They had nothing on him, just a bunch of bullies, pull out a gun shit gets real.
Guns have been effective self defence for hundreds of years now or did you just wake up from a coma? Also read my post in entirety instead of first line it explains everything.
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Jan 8 2022 06:26am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 7 2022 10:20pm)
I think that the state government should be able to use their judgment to replace the jury with people from other randomly selected parts of the state - if the specific city in question falls below certain metrics of poverty or homicide. The local city clearly failed at its constitutional promise and another path should be taken under state leadership.

Places like Detroit and Camden shouldn't exist. It's a humanitarian nightmare. People that live there have worse PTSD than Iraq veterans. Yet politicians there still get reelected over and over. It's a political mafia organization that needs a quick and unyielding removal. This is the softest and most gentle way to bring it about.

I know you want to take the district clause in a 100% literal fasion, but all levels of prescribed government power are secondary to the actors actually implementing the power. Just look at the treachery certain organizations commit with FISA warrants and selective prosecution. Should we turn the other cheek and just let ourselves die due to the specificity of wording?


So, you want to substitute YOUR peers for the accused person's peers? The peers of the accused are more likely to live the same experience, and therefore have insight into what is affecting the accused in court. Operating as designed.

Politicians keep getting reelected everywhere. It's not even remotely unique to slums and high crime areas.
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Jan 8 2022 06:35am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jan 7 2022 11:15pm)
Yeah they really thought twice about enacting the largest spying program the world has ever known, and when they killed a subjugated millions of people, and did any number of other atricities.

Being armed doesn't make the government second guess anything if we're being honest. In terms of real political considerations the people who are gun nuts tend to be far too easy to manipulate.


This because guns are only part of the equation.
The guns also need to be in the hands of well informed citizens that form a militia.
Citizens well informed from a free press.
This is yet another checks and balance system installed.
It's all in the constitution.

You are complaining about guns/gun owners not doing there part.
When in fact, the entire process has been intentionally eroded.
Militia's have been demonized.
Guns are being demonized.
Almost no one is well informed, thanks to lying manipulated data from MSM.

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"It ain't got no gas in it".
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Jan 8 2022 10:08am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 8 Jan 2022 04:44)
You have it backwards. That something is cancellable means the cultural shift has already occured. The fact that "cancel culture" exists and hasn't made any real changes to the system highlights their inability to gather and wield hard power.


They are not able to cancel everyone everywhere yet, only within the domains they control, like social media platforms or Hollywood. So no, we are not yet seeing the full chilling effect of pervasive cancel culture, specifically because conservatives and libertarians are actively fighting back against it.


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Jan 8 2022 11:57am
Quote (Santara @ Jan 8 2022 07:26am)
So, you want to substitute YOUR peers for the accused person's peers? The peers of the accused are more likely to live the same experience, and therefore have insight into what is affecting the accused in court. Operating as designed.

Politicians keep getting reelected everywhere. It's not even remotely unique to slums and high crime areas.


I assault the credibility of the defendant's peers because they also vote for politicians that create such high poverty and homicide rates. Most areas like the ones I mentioned have to settle frivolous civil disagreements out of court because the Juries are too biased and immoral to award fair settlements - all Juries in these areas basically award billions of dollars. It's a consistent problem that has been documented for decades now, and it only decreases the quality of life of the area in question.

As a middle ground I suggest to use peers in neighboring counties that have lower poverty and homicide rates. I like this way because it doesn't use the federal government while also having some semblance of a same-state peer Jury.

The founding fathers did not intend to allow places like Detroit to exist when they wrote the founding documents. I think minor changes need to be made in order to account for these new patterns. If the violence wasn't so perpetually high in these areas, I would agree with you fully. The violence in these areas often spills over into surrounding areas, so the notion that peers could also be in nearby towns isn't a bad estimate either.

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Rofl

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jan 8 2022 11:59am
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