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Jan 6 2022 05:32pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 6 2022 04:06pm)
Innocent? The central park 5 were violent thugs who had battered, mugged and raped numerous people that night. The fact that they were not the ones responsible for the particular rape the media was focusing on doesn't exonerate them from responsibility for the spree of violence which they had indeed committed on that day.


Not in todays America. Not when George Floyd is a martyr and Kim Potter the face of evil. We got a netflix documentary where the central park 5 were doe-eyed innocent victims incapable of hurting a fly, persecuted by evil white people.

Sure they gave independent and generally consistent descriptions of the crime and were able to identify the area of the crime and verifiable details unknown to the police at the time, like the victim's walkman being stolen. And sure there was all kinds of evidence of them participating in all kinds of other random violent crime that night and prior, and sure they even went home to dispose of bloody clothing. But have you considered the fact they are black, and wrongly accused?
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Jan 6 2022 05:44pm
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Not in todays America. Not when George Floyd is a martyr and Kim Potter the face of evil. We got a netflix documentary where the central park 5 were doe-eyed innocent victims incapable of hurting a fly, persecuted by evil white people.

Sure they gave independent and generally consistent descriptions of the crime and were able to identify the area of the crime and verifiable details unknown to the police at the time, like the victim's walkman being stolen. And sure there was all kinds of evidence of them participating in all kinds of other random violent crime that night and prior, and sure they even went home to dispose of bloody clothing. But have you considered the fact they are black, and wrongly accused?


Kim Potter isn't evil, she just did something that is very illegal and is being subject to the law for it. I feel really bad for her and she seems genuinely remorseful. But she did what they said she did and there is no disputing that whatsoever.

George Floyd isn't a martyr as much as anyone else who is murdered without much thought or consideration. Even if he was a bad person the casual way in which he was killed by the police is beyond the pale. You can make excuses all you want he would be alive if he wasn't put in an illegal hold and received medical attention when his condition worsened. He died because his windpipe was cut off there isn't much controversy.

Rittenhouse isn't evil he was defending himself both times he executed his actions and used deadly force and he was rightfully acquitted.

The guys who lynched Arbury were rightfully convicted.

These are instances where the criminal justice system actually got it right.

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The radical feminist you mentioned was banned for intentionally using the wrong pronoun...while feuding with them publicly. Am I expressing a conservative POV by constantly tagging Caitlyn Jenner and calling them "he?" If Richard Spencer can avoid being banned, I'm sure this radical feminist could have avoided it as well. Instead, she decided to target some transperson and took the bait.

America invented AIDS to get rid of black people, Donald Trump won the election, COVID vaccines will have a high chance to kill you, the Jews architected 9/11, etc. I guess that's the truth that you abide by but I'm quite okay with platforms kicking people off who peddle those kind of lies. Unfortunately, most of that crap is unfiltered because the tech giants would rather make a quick buck than to lead responsibly. In addition, the evidence suggests that conservatives disproportionately benefit from social media. While I'm concerned about the power of Big Tech, I'm not concerned about these kind of people being silenced because they don't bring any value to the conversation and actively harm democracy.

I've been politically homeless for basically my entire life. I've had to ally with Protestant heathens who will burn for eternity, don't believe in evolution, etc. for decades. I don't think it's unreasonable to dump tens of millions of crazies for a group that's a tenth of their size and arguably less crazy. I've warned about the authoritarian left for YEARS but they simply aren't as dangerous as the authoritarian right. The fact that your side thinks that people like me care about decorum is laughable and shows that you're deeply out of touch you are. We despise Trumpists because of their dangerous policies and corruption. Trump could come out with 100 Access Hollywood tapes and I would be unbothered by it.


I can live with all the other points we obviously disagree on, but how the fuck can you say that? How can the AuthLeft side be the less dangerous one although the overwhelming majority of the elites in media, culture, academia, intellectual circles, the federal and state bureaucracy - and in recent years even in Corporate America and the military! - are aligned with them?

If we follow Gramsci and view the struggle for dominance and power in a society as a battle over who attains and maintains 'cultural hegemony', there can be no doubt that the Democratic side and their ideological allies are far closer to said cultural hegemony than the Republican side, particularly in the era of Trump.
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Jan 6 2022 05:45pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 6 Jan 2022 23:06)
Innocent? The central park 5 were violent thugs who had battered, mugged and raped numerous people that night. The fact that they were not the ones responsible for the particular rape the media was focusing on doesn't exonerate them from responsibility for the spree of violence which they had indeed committed on that day.


citation needed
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Jan 6 2022 05:47pm
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citation needed


Brain needed
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Jan 6 2022 05:50pm
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Kim Potter isn't evil, she just did something that is very illegal and is being subject to the law for it. I feel really bad for her and she seems genuinely remorseful. But she did what they said she did and there is no disputing that whatsoever.

George Floyd isn't a martyr as much as anyone else who is murdered without much thought or consideration. Even if he was a bad person the casual way in which he was killed by the police is beyond the pale. You can make excuses all you want he would be alive if he wasn't put in an illegal hold and received medical attention when his condition worsened. He died because his windpipe was cut off there isn't much controversy.

Rittenhouse isn't evil he was defending himself both times he executed his actions and used deadly force and he was rightfully acquitted.

The guys who lynched Arbury were rightfully convicted.

These are instances where the criminal justice system actually got it right. You get so mad when they get it right. You lose credibility when you side with one side unconditionally but shill is literally in your name as you have pointed out.


They rather literally painted George Floyd as a martyr and canonized him with sculptures and honorifics all around the country. You can't say his name in vain. I kept an ironic spread of the star tribune's "floyd with a halo over his head" article to put on my wall.
Kim Potter committed no crime. Mistakes aren't inherently criminal, and she never had criminal intent or recklessness to commit a crime, and yet they're trying to throw the book at her like she's the most heinous 0.01% of felons who get upward departures.
And furthermore, they convicted her on a theory of the crime that says that by intending to use a taser on a fleeing violent and dangerous felon while her partner was at risk of being dragged, that she was committing assault and should have been convicted and imprisoned even if she had properly deployed the taser. And I seriously doubt even you will buy into that farce of an argument. But a jury of her 'peers' from MN-5 would convict her of defaming the prophet mohammed if it was on the docket.
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Jan 6 2022 05:54pm
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citation needed

See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case#Earlier_violent_incidents_that_night
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case#Pretrial_evidence
and references therein.


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Four of the five had confessed to police about other attacks in the park in other areas on the night of April 19, including the assault and robbery of John Loughlin, to which they said they were witnesses or participants. Salaam's unsigned statement also covered the range of actions and crimes.[8] According to The New York Times, their accounts of these other attacks were accurate, unlike their confessions to the assault on the jogger.


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Jan 6 2022 05:56pm
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citation needed

this user asks for citations when faced with the factual assertion “the reich lost both world wars they started”
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Jan 6 2022 06:04pm
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One of the more ridiculous parts of this story is how after the netflix propaganda piece came out, the woman who was victimized and beaten nearly to death wound up getting hate from the woke mob because she was aware of the facts of her own case and didn't join the mass media denial
https://old.reddit.com/r/WhenTheySeeUs/comments/bwcnya/trisha_meili/

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Jan 6 2022 06:13pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 6 Jan 2022 19:04)
One of the more ridiculous parts of this story is how after the netflix propaganda piece came out, the woman who was victimized and beaten nearly to death wound up getting hate from the woke mob because she was aware of the facts of her own case and didn't join the mass media denial
https://old.reddit.com/r/WhenTheySeeUs/comments/bwcnya/trisha_meili/


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