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Great, thanks to this thread I just spent an hour reading about the Central 5 (something I have never even heard about).

Depending on the source you read, they're either guilty or they're not guilty. The DNA evidence either exonerates them or it doesn't.

I only found one source that seems to give the whole picture:

https://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/when-they-see-us/

It doesn't look so good for the "innocent" Central 5 when examining some of the facts:

"Korey Wise's friend's older sister, Melody Jackson, told investigators on the eve of the trial that Wise had confessed to her that he did not rape Trisha Meili but rather held and fondled her leg during the attack (Wise grabbing the victim's leg is in line with what both the surgeon and plastic surgeon observed at the hospital, red outlines of different-sized hand prints on her thighs and lower legs)."

"As officers were taking Clarence Thomas and Kevin Richardson to the precinct, Thomas began to cry and blurted out, "I know who did the murder. I know where he lives and I'll tell you his name." Richardson said that he knew as well and agreed to give them the name. Then Thomas said that it was Antron McCray. According to the officers, Richardson agreed and said, "Yeah. That's who did it."This was before the female jogger was found."

"Detective Michael Sheehan reported that while he was transporting Raymond Santana from the Central Park Precinct to the 20th Precinct, Santana on his own said, "I had nothing to do with the rape. All I did was feel the woman's t--s." This was prior to the police knowing about the rape."

"During the booking process, Officer Robert Powers said that when he told the defendants they shouldn't be out beating people, but "should be home with your girlfriends," Raymond Santana looked at a co-defendant, smiled, and remarked, "I already got mines," after which they both laughed. The statement was inadmissible in court because it wasn't preceded by a waiver of Miranda rights."

"Two of Korey Wise's friends, Ronald Williams and Shabazz Head, told the police that when they encountered Wise on April 20, 1989, he told them, "You heard about that woman that was beat up and raped in the park last night. That was us!"

"Dennis Commedo, a boy who was part of the larger group in the park that night, reportedly told police that when he encountered Kevin Richardson in a ball field in the park, Richardson told him, "We just raped somebody."

Ummm, yeah. Doesn't look too good for them, now does it? Looks like the central 5 not only raped her themselves, or some of them just held her down while others raped her, but then the Marias Reyes guy also raped her after they were done. His DNA was the only recoverable DNA at the scene, but that doesn't mean the others weren't involved... especially when you look at all this evidence against them.

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Jan 6 2022 03:25pm

Quote (HeLiCaL @ Jan 6 2022 01:29pm)

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omg ew noooo

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Remember when donald took out a full page ad in the NYT calling for the execution of 5 innocent black children?

https://i.imgur.com/tvPS8Di.jpg

Innocent? The central park 5 were violent thugs who had battered, mugged and raped numerous people that night. The fact that they were not the ones responsible for the particular rape the media was focusing on doesn't exonerate them from responsibility for the spree of violence which they had indeed committed on that day.

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Jan 6 2022 04:59pm

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 6 2022 06:21am)

Twitter has repeatedly gone after persons who refuse to bow to the transgender ideology and say things like "no, girls can't have penises too" or stuff like that.
Here's a report from a radical feminist:
https://www.feministcurrent.com/2018/11/20/twitter-wants-shut-right-wants-join-dont-think-either/

Do you seriously fail to realize that you are effectively saying that these platforms should be able to decide what "the truth" is and ban those who disagree with it, i.e. "spread lies"? :rolleyes:

I understand where you are coming from. You're a centrist to center-right leaning guy who's strongly pro-establishment, pro-technocracy and anti-populism. In the political landscape of today's America, you have become more or less politically homeless, with the Democrats moving further and further to the left and the Republican party taken over by trumpists. You have begrudgingly started rooting for team blue because you secretly hope that a lengthy spell of electoral defeats would force the GOP to get rid of trumpism and you would get back the GOP of McCain or Romney or so.

You willingly look the other way and (try to) convince yourself that the authoritarian impulses of the liberal side are either imaginary, or not that big of a deal, or a harsh reaction that nonetheless targets the right people who "deserve" to be silenced. You turn a blind eye to big tech surveillance, the loss of civil rights and liberties because you just cannot stomach the tactics and tone and lack of oh-so-precious decorum of the side which is still advocating and defending these things.

Just for your info: my grandfather was a 16 year old boy when he was forcibly enlisted to the Wehrmacht in late 1943. A few weeks after being recruited against his will, he was hit by a grenade or mortar in Northern Italy. The projectile got stuck in his upper arm, but it was a dud, so he survived for the moment. The wound was huge and started to fester though, he was already almost dead by the time some brave doctor in a field hospital volunteered to try to remove the projectile and the splinters from his arm. It was a major miracle that my grandfather survived this ordeal; without this miracle, I wouldn't be here today.

The class above him could still get some sort of "emergency high school graduation" which enabled them to go to university and pursue higher education a couple of years later, after the war. My grandfather was royally screwed. Despite being the best in his class and a highly intelligent man, he could never go to college or get even a shot at the career he wanted once the war was over. In spite of being extremely lucky to have survived, his life was still derailed forever because a murderous regime enlisted adolescents for their war of aggression.

My grandfather's brother was older when he had to fight in the war. After the war, he was traumatized by the atrocities he had seen and was drinking his brains out for 10 years before he got his life back in order. His bad health still caused him to have an untimely, far too early death.

And despite all that, my family is still one of those who got really lucky; plus, what they had to endure is presumably nothing compared to the family of your wife, so please don't get me wrong, it is not my intention to downplay their suffering.

Anyway, the bottom line is that no, my family did not execute your wife's family and if you (or fender or any of the other usual suspects) think that I'm a nazi sympathizer, you are horribly mistaken.

The radical feminist you mentioned was banned for intentionally using the wrong pronoun...while feuding with them publicly. Am I expressing a conservative POV by constantly tagging Caitlyn Jenner and calling them "he?" If Richard Spencer can avoid being banned, I'm sure this radical feminist could have avoided it as well. Instead, she decided to target some transperson and took the bait.

America invented AIDS to get rid of black people, Donald Trump won the election, COVID vaccines will have a high chance to kill you, the Jews architected 9/11, etc. I guess that's the truth that you abide by but I'm quite okay with platforms kicking people off who peddle those kind of lies. Unfortunately, most of that crap is unfiltered because the tech giants would rather make a quick buck than to lead responsibly. In addition, the evidence suggests that conservatives disproportionately benefit from social media. While I'm concerned about the power of Big Tech, I'm not concerned about these kind of people being silenced because they don't bring any value to the conversation and actively harm democracy.

I've been politically homeless for basically my entire life. I've had to ally with Protestant heathens who will burn for eternity, don't believe in evolution, etc. for decades. I don't think it's unreasonable to dump tens of millions of crazies for a group that's a tenth of their size and arguably less crazy. I've warned about the authoritarian left for YEARS but they simply aren't as dangerous as the authoritarian right. The fact that your side thinks that people like me care about decorum is laughable and shows that you're deeply out of touch you are. We despise Trumpists because of their dangerous policies and corruption. Trump could come out with 100 Access Hollywood tapes and I would be unbothered by it.

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