Quote (Bazi @ Nov 7 2023 06:58pm)
I think I understand the gist of what you’re saying here and agree that there is no respect for Hamas, amongst , Iran - merely they are leveraging Hamas. I think religion is also being leveraged to radicalize a society of angry children (Gaza) who have undoubtedly experienced loss in their lifetimes
I also agree that Muslims and Jews can live peacefully alongside - looking no further than Israel as an example of this
My main point is that you need leaders of both respective parties that are interested in peace and identity politics. Hamas was NEVER going to be a good faith partner in the quest for peace
yes, i agree in this and i also point that we have one of the most idiotic people that are responsible ( inside Israel ) im not sure what is the right phrase, so il try - public explanation of how things are.
explaining simple things to the world is something my country is doing terribly.
simple examples:
1. the minister who point out that nuking Gaza is not a bad option, and maybe even should be considered. this is not only an idiot minister that should be fired, it's also something any sane Israeli civilian will tell you - this minister is a fucking idiot.
2. military stuff:
over the past 20 years or so, i saw plenty of media, pictues, information etc.. of Palestinian boys\girls with burns on their back. specific burns. as someone who is familiar up-close in those things, those stuff are coming from the blast\shock or w\e you name it, when you shoot a missle
in a close specially with a wall behind you.
explanation ( easy for me, looks like it's hard for my country to do it ) : kids in Gaza over the years are taken to shoot, or simply to be inside a knock-knock soon to be buried buildings with the Hamas terrorists with them. the term human shield is not made-up it's simply how it is.
so when you see a Palestinian child with those burns, and mothers, elders, media, pictures, blood.. yelling to sky on the from news - this is now the Israeli air-force fault that those fucking children are taken ( and sometimes teached how to shoot rockets ).
my country failed they way i see it to give those examples in a clear way to the world. this is not a fucking air-strike burn, this is a close quarter back-burns that those "liberators" are actually doing to thier own people. this is how fucked up things are in thier world.
is it easy to explain ? no. you are stronger, more advanced, thier missles ( most of them ) are handled by iron dome so you have far less fatalities - so you are the bully.
i have plenty more examples from the field. it's just how things are.