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Jun 23 2018 04:16pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 23 2018 04:54pm)
Pretty sure the CIA put Chavez in power.


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Jun 23 2018 06:21pm
Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 23 2018 04:03pm)
Nope

Women and girls are definitely facing high violence in their destroyed areas

Gangs are definitely abusing and murdering people where many are coming from

It's dishonest to represent a majority of people risking what they have left to come here as people looking to scam or cause harm

Even more and more high up republicans are acknowledging this

Like I said above. Jerk off to border security jerk off to tough enforcement against the most vulnerable in a situation

No reason to lie and mislead when it comes to the majority trying to come here





Long time ago I was in a pretty poor/rowdy area of SF.
It was a war zone. 150K blacks on one side, 150K Mexicans on the other.

Lots of beggars on the street. I asked a local, long time business man I was doing some remodeling for... "Where do all the beggars go at night"? He said: "They go home".


Yes, there's a lot of BS in the world, but there is even more BS artists.
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Jun 23 2018 07:25pm
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Long time ago I was in a pretty poor/rowdy area of SF.
It was a war zone. 150K blacks on one side, 150K Mexicans on the other.

Lots of beggars on the street. I asked a local, long time business man I was doing some remodeling for... "Where do all the beggars go at night"? He said: "They go home".


Yes, there's a lot of BS in the world, but there is even more BS artists.


basically from what you said 300k black/mexican people...believable especially if you add in white would be a shitload more
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Jun 23 2018 07:34pm
Quote (Plaquelord @ Jun 23 2018 09:25pm)
basically from what you said 300k black/mexican people...believable especially if you add in white would be a shitload more




Well it was a fairly large area. It was 16th and Mission in SF. Mission was like the demilitarized zone. Black on one side Mex on the other.
Lots of automatic weapons and crack. No problems in the day time (cept beggars). Lots of tourists in daylight.

After dark it got seriously wild.

One Halloween at night, about 5-6 Mexican guys drove into the 15th and Mission intersection, towing a 20 ft. jet engine, which they lit, for Halloween. It was seriously loud.
Police precinct bldg., was two blocks away. They walked over and told them to shut it off, which they did. But all the people on the side walks were booing.

The guys point was... the beggars aren't really poor. They just found an easy way to make money. After a day begging, they took off their rags and went home.
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Well it was a fairly large area. It was 16th and Mission in SF. Mission was like the demilitarized zone. Black on one side Mex on the other.
Lots of automatic weapons and crack. No problems in the day time (cept beggars). Lots of tourists in daylight.

After dark it got seriously wild.

One Halloween at night, about 5-6 Mexican guys drove into the 15th and Mission intersection, towing a 20 ft. jet engine, which they lit, for Halloween. It was seriously loud.
Police precinct bldg., was two blocks away. They walked over and told them to shut it off, which they did. But all the people on the side walks were booing.

The guys point was... the beggars aren't really poor. They just found an easy way to make money. After a day begging, they took off their rags and went home.




i don't know what you just said to me but I'm going to take it as offense since I don't know what it means :)

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Jun 23 2018 08:24pm
Quote (Plaquelord @ Jun 23 2018 09:40pm)
i don't know what you just said to me but I'm going to take it as offense since I don't know what it means :)




It wasn't.


My point is, I've seen scams I couldn't have thought up in a century of Mondays.

This immigration crap, is just another scam.
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Jun 23 2018 08:46pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jun 23 2018 07:24pm)
It wasn't.


My point is, I've seen scams I couldn't have thought up in a century of Mondays.

This immigration crap, is just another scam.


being poverty stricken without opportunity and surrounded by violence isn't a scam or a hoax

making the dangerous treks from predators and through predators with young children isn't an illusion

finding an article and trying to use it to represent the majority or your other tactic of just making things up doesn't define these people or represent the reality

these people are not the enemy they are desperate and there is no reason to misrepresent them just because you are so stuck in a delusional Mayberry utopia where you disregard anything that doesn't fit in your archaic mindset
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Quote (Beowulf @ Jun 23 2018 10:46pm)
being poverty stricken without opportunity and surrounded by violence isn't a scam or a hoax

making the dangerous treks from predators and through predators with young children isn't an illusion

finding an article and trying to use it to represent the majority or your other tactic of just making things up doesn't define these people or represent the reality

these people are not the enemy they are desperate and there is no reason to misrepresent them just because you are so stuck in a delusional Mayberry utopia where you disregard anything that doesn't fit in your archaic mindset




Oh, well in that case, I take it all back. :/

Let everyone come to the US and turn it into a 3rd world country. I'm sure that you will be happy then.
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Jun 23 2018 08:53pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jun 23 2018 06:21pm)
Long time ago I was in a pretty poor/rowdy area of SF.
It was a war zone. 150K blacks on one side, 150K Mexicans on the other.

Lots of beggars on the street. I asked a local, long time business man I was doing some remodeling for... "Where do all the beggars go at night"? He said: "They go home".


Yes, there's a lot of BS in the world, but there is even more BS artists.



Yup, homeless people are just a myth.
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Jun 23 2018 09:00pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jun 23 2018 07:51pm)
Oh, well in that case, I take it all back. :/

Let everyone come to the US and turn it into a 3rd world country. I'm sure that you will be happy then.


I'll be happy when people like you stop labeling all of them rapists and drug dealers and scammers and threats

that doesn't in any way suggest I support open borders I support this country holding itself to the highest decency standard even to those that are desperate and walk across a border

Dehumanizing people does not do anything other than make it even easier for hateful people to support their malicious leaders in treating people unjustly

We do not hold up to this country's values by solely attacking the most vulnerable in a circumstance where we have played a role in their desperation and profit off of those that don't get caught

I will be happy when the words that "patriots" so often speak about this country become true through action

This post was edited by Beowulf on Jun 23 2018 09:01pm
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