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Apr 11 2014 12:00am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 11 2014 12:53am)
wat
which coin?



Yes im much better off here than a random country.
I dont need to renounce citizenship and move away in order to object to people calling high taxation "the christian" thing to do.


You don't need to go to a random country or renounce citizenship. You can just stay here. Most of the country is uninhibited, I bet you can drive for thirty minutes and find a place to live free.

If you don't want to participate in society then don't. You can still use our roads and you get hurt you can still use emergency services and whatnot. If you're starving you can still get a little to eat from some program or food pantry. You don't have to contribute, because some people can't contribute, and they deserve to live with dignity too, even if they're fucking crazy libertarians who live in the woods because of some martyr-life self-persecution complex.

It isn't like the government is in the way of you living a fulfilling life, quite the opposite. Anybody can succeed in the United States if they have the drive, you are completely free to live your life in the direction you want to and completely free to improve yourself. You have the most extensive set of rights in the world that is compatible with the same set of rights for everybody else. You even belong to the most privileged population in American society, yet you piss and moan about how oppressed you are. My lord, sack up.

Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 11 2014 01:00am)
So the government should own all of the fruits of my labor based on an interpretation of the bible?

I have another solution. Legalize other money.


You can trade wampum if you can find anyone that will take it. Or wear little satchels to carry gold around in, and weigh it for every transaction, that is bartered because there is no standard way to price things anymore.

/s

It gets worse.

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So give back to the government what is the governments.


So the government should own all of the fruits of my labor based on an interpretation of the bible?

I have another solution. Legalize other money.
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Apr 11 2014 12:05am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 11 2014 02:00am)
So the government should own all of the fruits of my labor based on an interpretation of the bible?

I have another solution. Legalize other money.


does the government stamp your fruit with the presidents face?

Barter if you do not wish to use that which is the governments as a representation of your wealth.

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You don't need to go to a random country or renounce citizenship.  You can just stay here.  Most of the country is uninhibited, I bet you can drive for thirty minutes and find a place to live free.

If you don't want to participate in society then don't.  You can still use our roads and you get hurt you can still use emergency services and whatnot.  If you're starving you can still get a little to eat from some program or food pantry.  You don't have to contribute, because some people can't contribute, and they deserve to live with dignity too, even if they're fucking crazy libertarians who live in the woods because of some martyr-life self-persecution complex. 

It isn't like the government is in the way of you living a fulfilling life, quite the opposite. Anybody can succeed in the United States if they have the drive, you are completely free to live your life in the direction you want to and completely free to improve yourself.  You have the most extensive set of rights in the world that is compatible with the same set of rights for everybody else.  You even belong to the most privileged population in American society, yet you piss and moan about how oppressed you are.  My lord, sack up.


Actually in many many cases it is.
You have to get expensive permits to do anything and they have a thicket of economy crippling laws and bans on in-numerous peaceful things you can do.

You are justifying all the crap the government does and trying to silence the opposition just because we have it good compared to most other countries.
I will not sit down and shut up when I see injustices, waste and lies.

Most of the things they do "in the name of the poor" backfire and fucks everyone over.

also, Whether you think its good or not is separate from whether its the christian thing to do.
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Apr 11 2014 12:08am
Quote (Ylem122 @ Apr 11 2014 02:05am)
does the government stamp your fruit with the presidents face?

Barter if you do not wish to use that which is the governments as a representation of your wealth.


Or we could legalize competing currencies like I said.
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Apr 11 2014 12:10am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 11 2014 02:06am)

also, Whether you think its good or not is separate from whether its the christian thing to do.


there is conflicting Christian things to do.

one would say to allways give, as to be taken advantage of, is little when compared to not helping one who truly needs it due to fear of being taken advantage of.

The other, and what most Mennonites believe, as written in the Didache

"And also concerning this, it has been said, Let your alms sweat in your hands, until you know to whom you should give. "
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Apr 11 2014 12:11am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 11 2014 02:08am)
Or we could legalize competing currencies like I said.


id really rather step away from more baseless currency's like what we have in favor of real items with real worth, like gold or silver.

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Quote (Ylem122 @ Apr 11 2014 02:11am)
id really rather step away from that in favor of real items with real worth, like gold or silver.


Thats what I think people would trend towards yes.
No presidents face on the gold coins preferably. :lol:
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Apr 11 2014 12:18am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 11 2014 02:13am)
Thats what I think people would trend towards yes.
No presidents face on the gold coins preferably.  :lol:


Ok. So back to the picture.

The point isn't higher taxes. its that some people would rather see the taxes we already pay go to the military than the poor, while in the same breath talk about a government based on Christian morals.




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Apr 11 2014 12:23am
defending the country is helping the poor.

Defend the weak and the fatherless
Psalm 82:3

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