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Jan 24 2026 06:25pm
Pester you?

You created this thread....


Not to talk about my personal beliefs but to expose yours. Your deflections and aggressive whataboutism tells me deep down you know you are wrong but don't want to admit it.

Christians: I demand you give me all the scientific proof including video and peer reviewed studies....
Also Christians: How dare you even ask us for proof about our god? We don't need proof we have faith, just accept it with no questions.

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My prayer for you today is very simple, that the blindness and hardness of your heart would be lifted in Jesus Mighty Name. Amen.

May the Lord Jesus forgive you and save you, so that you & all of your loved ones will be with His Majesty in Heaven forever and ever. In Jesus Mighty Name, Amen.
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Jan 24 2026 06:43pm
Not to talk about my personal beliefs but to expose yours. Your deflections and aggressive whataboutism tells me deep down you know you are wrong but don't want to admit it.

Christians: I demand you give me all the scientific proof including video and peer reviewed studies....
Also Christians: How dare you even ask us for proof about our god? We don't need proof we have faith, just accept it with no questions.

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You believe in a whataboutism.

addone is still self projecting. There's a reason you struggle this much with what you have your faith in.

God is good and he will always be the same during your struggles.
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Jan 24 2026 07:07pm
My prayer for you today is very simple, that the blindness and hardness of your heart would be lifted in Jesus Mighty Name. Amen.

May the Lord Jesus forgive you and save you, so that you & all of your loved ones will be with His Majesty in Heaven forever and ever. In Jesus Mighty Name, Amen.


Curious. Should I trust my heart or my mind, or both/neither?
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Jan 24 2026 08:33pm
#25 – Who Visited Baby Jesus?
The visitors who come to see baby Jesus differ significantly between Matthew and Luke. In Matthew’s account, magi (wise men) from the East follow a star to Bethlehem, bringing gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh to honor the newborn “King of the Jews” (Matthew 2:1-12).

Luke, on the other hand, introduces humble shepherds who are visited by an angel announcing the birth of the Savior. The shepherds then go to Bethlehem to see Jesus, glorifying and praising God for what they had witnessed (Luke 2:8-20).

This difference but also other contradictory elements are analyzed in depth by Raymond E. Brown in his magnificent and enormous book The Birth of the Messiah. For those ready to immerse themselves in all the nuances and details of the birth narratives, it is a must-read.

#26 – Who Is For Jesus and Who Is Against Him?
Another discrepancy that Bart Ehrman highlights in his book Jesus Interrupted involves two seemingly contradictory sayings of Jesus as recorded in Matthew and Mark. In Matthew 12:30, Jesus states, “Whoever is not with me is against me,” drawing a clear line between allegiance and opposition. Yet, in Mark 9:40, he appears to express the opposite sentiment: “Whoever is not against us is for us.” These sayings, while similar in structure, convey starkly different messages.

#27 – The Council of Jerusalem
The description of the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15 differs in emphasis from Paul’s account in Galatians 2:1-10. In Galatians, Paul emphasizes his independence from the Jerusalem apostles, presenting the council as a private meeting where his mission to the Gentiles was endorsed.

The book of Acts, however, portrays the event as a public council where the apostles collectively and in harmony decide on guidelines for Gentile converts, such as abstaining from food sacrificed to idols.
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Jan 24 2026 09:35pm
More ai copy and paste.

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Jan 24 2026 10:14pm
Eusebius of Caesarea (c. AD 260/265 – 30 May AD 339)

So you arrived at a conclusion that they are 1/2 brothers because some guy +265 years after jesus told you they were related not by the bible itself?
What you have is a very elaborate explanation of a very obvious contradiction and you are basing it on some guy's opinion? How did this Eusebius guy conclude that Heli and Jacob were 1/2 brothers? What source is he drawing these findings and presenting them as if they were facts?

Remember I am not saying that your explanation isn't possible but the more I dig the more it sounds like mental gymnastics. I am trying to ask these questions as a detective or a forensics would leaving no stone unturned, I want to make sure its not built on assumptions. So far you just copy pasted someone else's opinion and presented your TED Talk as facts. Talk about irony.


No, after trying to explain this to you many times I had to go and find some sources outside of the Bible to support this as you yourself have said that using the Bible to use its own source is not credible.

So now it's your turn to do your own research and let me know what you find. Let's see your investigation skills in action.
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Jesus said Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at Hand.

Then,
He bound up the broken hearted,
healed the sick,
delivered the prisoners from their bonds,
and set captives free.


He healed people with broken hearts,
He healed sick people,
He freed people from demons,
and He turned many unrighteous/wicked people to righteousness and life, returning them to their families with a spirit of power, of love, and of a sound mind;

today,
He does all these things, as He always has,
alcoholics are freed from alcoholism,
children get their parents back,
brothers are reconciled.
lives are saved and souls are saved alive.


What is your problem?
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Jan 24 2026 11:43pm
No, after trying to explain this to you many times I had to go and find some sources outside of the Bible to support this as you yourself have said that using the Bible to use its own source is not credible.

So now it's your turn to do your own research and let me know what you find. Let's see your investigation skills in action.


I am well aware that using a bible to prove the bible is circular logic but in this very particular instance we are trying to clarify the lineage within the context of the bible itself. I am asking does the bible itself spell it out that Heli and Jacob were brothers or 1/2 brothers or you just conveniently assuming that in order to make your explanation work?


Just point out chapter and verse or say you are trying to fill in the inconstencies with your imagination? Because I only see 2 seperate contradictory accounts from my end.
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Jan 25 2026 12:15am
Jesus said Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at Hand.

Then,
He bound up the broken hearted,
healed the sick,
delivered the prisoners from their bonds,
and set captives free.


He healed people with broken hearts,
He healed sick people,
He freed people from demons,
and He turned many unrighteous/wicked people to righteousness and life, returning them to their families with a spirit of power, of love, and of a sound mind;

today,
He does all these things, as He always has,
alcoholics are freed from alcoholism,
children get their parents back,
brothers are reconciled.
lives are saved and souls are saved alive.


What is your problem?


And professor Snape said his dad could beat up jesus's dad 5-0 in the blood moor
He also said he can bench press the planet on his pinky finger and every person that gets cured from cancer is because of him. He said he does a lot more but doesn't really want to brag about it.

In case you are still not getting it. it means you can quote the bible or any propaganda piece for that matter until you are blue in the face none of it is true unless you can prove it.
No proof = bible fake

Now which part of "show substantial proof of jesus" are you confused about?

More ai copy and paste.

:rofl:


If you can't disprove them cry about the source, shooting the messenger is a viable coping strategy.



This post was edited by addone on Jan 25 2026 12:34am
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