Quote (Djunior @ 22 Dec 2021 18:53)

An unhealthy population means the costs spiral out of control from the get go. Unsustainable.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 22 2021 07:08pm)

You are describing the current system.

When you start fixing the problem you almost immediately decrease cost and increase economic output.

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The ACA’s core insurance-market reform forced insurers to cover individuals who first purchase coverage when they are seriously ill for the same premiums as those who sign up before they get sick. This led those with major medical needs to sign up in droves — causing medical costs to soar, insurers to hike premiums by 105 percent over four years, and healthy Americans to drop out of the market. By 2020, ACA premiums to cover a family of four averaged $17,244, with households required to pay an additional deductible of $7,767 before plans pay for claims.

Quote (fender @ Dec 22 2021 07:18pm)

ah of course, the good old "now it's too late anyway, nothing can be done - just ignore the 3rd world circumstances to which obvious and proven solutions exist" talking point we all know from gun deaths, slightly rephrased to "fit" for-profit healthcare in the US...

there is no narrative too dumb or too obviously wrong and corrupt, that you wouldn't fall for - as long as some racist bimbo on faux news tells you it's "sCaRy soCiALisM!!1!", huh? imagine being so scared of something you don't even understand that you become a shill for big pharma and the insurance industry... pathetic.

https://www.pgpf.org/sites/default/files/How-Does-The-U.S.-Healthcare-System-Compare-To-Other-Countries-chart-2.jpg

Quote (Djunior @ 22 Dec 2021 19:26)

Post source to back your claims.

And read this https://www.manhattan-institute.org/obamacare-mandate-failed-to-make-health-insurance-more-affordable

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Exactly what I said, an unhealthy population puts too much strain on such a system when you introduce it.



LOL you fool. Or should I say far left tool?

Read the above article and shoosh

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All of the studies, regardless of ideological orientation, showed that long-term cost savings were likely. Even the Mercatus Center, a right-wing think tank, recently found about $2 trillion in net savings over 10 years from a single-payer Medicare for All system. Most importantly, everyone in America would have high-quality health care coverage.

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Quote (Djunior @ 22 Dec 2021 19:45)

Mr simpleton at it again huh. It didn'twork due to soaring cost as mentioned in the article I posted.

You're too far down the far left rabbit hole. Hopeless

Quote (fender @ Dec 22 2021 07:52pm)

"it" is not what we're talking about though, pea brain. this is about a universal single-payer healthcare system which is projected to save trillions - even by right wing think tanks. you moving the goal post because you don't have an actual argument doesn't mean those 22 studies, that all came to similar conclusions concerning projected costs, don't exist. but i guess you just don't want to acknowledge that, so you pretend you're too dumb to make that really simple distinction...

Quote (Djunior @ Dec 22 2021 09:12pm)

You're the pea brain I already said it might work for a reasonably healthy population look up my previous posts you numb nut.

Talking about moving the goalposts, lol

Quote (Djunior @ 22 Dec 2021 20:12)

You're the pea brain I already said it might work for a reasonably healthy population look up my previous posts you numb nut.

Talking about moving the goalposts, lol

Quote (fender @ Dec 22 2021 08:40pm)

those 22 studies concern the US, pea brain. you moved the goal post from universal healthcare to a system only insuring those with "major medical needs" - no shit premiums are going up when all the healthy drop out. did you even read the article you linked, because you sure as hell didn't understand it, nor do you understand what "universal healthcare" means apparently.

again, you being too dumb to have this conversation doesn't mean all those studies predicting significantly lower costs for the US are wrong.