what transphobic things do you think joe rogan was going to say?

Just listen to him talking to Sam Harris or Crowder on trans people and you'll hear it. He's happy to be a shitlord when talking to other shitlords.

Pretty much Rogan's only care on the subject is of surrounding sports/competition which is understandable given his background

as I've said multiple times he does make insensitive comments from time to time while voicing his opinion but he generally is either talking about competition or Caitlyn Jenner.

The reason he makes fun of Caitlyn Jenner other than when he is joking around with kyle dunnigan is because of her saying silly shit like "I'm a traditional kind of girl" about gay marriage and because she is responsible for a person's death in a car wreck and how people never bring that up and just forgot about it. These are specific scenarios about specific people and based on behavior and fairness

and Sam Harris is definitely not the same kind of mind or personality as someone like crowder and doesn't deserve being lumped in with him

Rogan often says his disclaimer of not hating trans people which generally rings true based on everything I've listened to and I can just about guarantee I've listened to more than just about anyone here over the years

Now the thing I had the biggest problem with and have already brought this up multiple times during multiple other instances of this same topic is when he insulted and was insulting with a joke about Cyborg who is not trans but the joking was mean to both cyborg and to trans people in general. Something he has apologized for.

What he is guilty of as I've said multiple times now is pulling a pard 2019 which is focusing way too much on extreme cases as a non trans person fucking around with other non trans people and it is a weakness of his content. Either get over the extreme case one sided bs or invite on people to talk about serious trans issues that isn't a right wing boomer entertainer.

Lawl.

It was a shit interview. A bunch of gotcha questions about quotes from years ago. The idea that this was some takedown from a great journalist is laughable.

Ben was a bit overly defensive, but his pushback on the guy was warranted.

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I don't have 16 minutes for it, but I watched to the first question about abortion and yeah the journalist was coming into it with questions about as fair as 'have you stopped beating your wife'?
even if you don't necessarily share the left-wing agenda, if you stage all your questions along the most left-wing narrative framing and spin, you can't have an unbiased debate
the same would be true if fox news hosted amy klobuchar and then asked her questions like "Your child murder support policies have led to the deaths of millions of babies. Do you think you're going to hell?"

I watched it. A lot of his career has been based on the destroy clip nonsense and I have a whole lot of criticisms about him and how he conducts himself at times but since he handled it by holding himself accountable and showing some self awareness on this there is no reason to harp on him or give the other person any more shine than they already got. It's a positive thing for an ego like Shapiro's in the long run for this to happen every now and again to a person if the person knows how to handle it and move forward learning from it which Shapiro seems able and willing to do

Indeed. This is a prime example of the group think of Twitter... everybody pretending this was some great display of interviewing that just never happens in America. So silly.

Plus, the talking points on the GA abortion bill are misinformed.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/georgia-heartbeat-bill-will-not-imprison-women-who-have-abortions/

its funny how these laws have explicit language / court rulings that precludes them from applying to the women having abortions, and the group think insists that it will imprison women for 30 years and echos that all the way up to ostensibly legitimate debate between pundits. Yet when new york passed a bill that removes criminal abortion penalties for attacks on women or in virginia amended the bill to allow abortions up to the moment of birth for reason of 'non-serious/non-permanent mental impairment', the same people are happy to completely ignore the text of the law and its legal implications and instead insist its a straw man and no woman would ever try to have an abortion 'days before giving birth' for a non-serious reason, or that all forcible abortions of women would be covered by other statutes like assault. But simply reading the code shows otherwise. Under NY law, I don't see any way for the state to prosecute a man who administers an abortifacient to a woman unknowingly. Its not an "intent to disfigure another person seriously and permanently, or to destroy, amputate or disable permanently a member or organ of his body". They couldn't prosecute someone for a 'forced abortion' in any legal way that wouldn't criminalize voluntarily abortion, since the code doesn't distinguish consent. And pretending that women would never seek an abortion in the last days of a pregnancy is denying the oodles of cases of women trying to drown their babies after birth or cases like Kermit Gosnell.


This is why I, as pro-life centrist who sits right at the 'old' societal consensus of 'abortion up until viability', have to side with republicans. I don't agree with a heartbeat law, but I definitely don't agree with the more radical stuff going on the left, and at least the right is honest and getting their laws challenged and knocked down in court, whereas the left is setting extreme precedents that are warping our laws and justifying them with blatant lies.
But Ben Shapiro is a cuck and couldn't argue his way out of a box

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