I had my elementary classes in a religious school and i dislike this disorder .........

Its becoming increasingly clear that as the buck gets pushed around, its landing on small business owners, and especially restaurant owners who are going down faster than nursing home patients in NYC

Put yourself in the shoes of a business owner right now. Those that stay open for carryout / curbside are reporting about 15-50% of their usual revenue, but their normal average profit margins were 5%. Their operating costs don't go down 85% when they lose 85% of sales, you've got property taxes, mortgages, electric, water, etc. Even shutting down temporarily and unplugging freezers there's a restaurant here that had their monthly electric bill drop from $4000 to $2500. You've still got to pay salaries of employees if you want to keep them, otherwise its closing up and laying off everyone. And those that have been furloughed? Even if you re-open and want to bring them back, unemployment paying an extra $600 means that they'll earn more money by staying home watching youtube videos than flipping burgers. The federal government has completely removed the incentive to work. You can't possibly raise wages enough to make that attractive. And on top of that, states are burying restaurants that re-open with regulations for safety, and all the costs of sanitizing stations, disposable menus, PPE- you're paying that. And between extremely low table limits (5 per store in some places) and the publics unwillingness to eat out, even if you re-open there's no way you'll recapture more than 50-75% of previous revenue at best, probably much less. There are restaurant owners up here who are trying to risk re-opening before the governor allows it, putting huge amounts of protection in place like hospital grade foggers and temperature checks at the door and every other measure you can think of- and they're having to crowdfund legal fees as the attorney general threatens them with a $25,000 fine per location.

What are these business owners supposed to do other than march on their state capitols with AR-15s?

To kill each others, but only after have saying "thank you mr president".

What's your alternative though?

Some business models, like the hospitality, tourism and event industry, are just inherently more susceptible to the coronavirus pandemic than others (software, engineering, financial services). There is no way around these industries being hit the hardest.
So the only two options I see is to either bail them out entirely, effectively socializing their losses, or to refer to entrepreneurial risk and self-responsibility.

And it's not like restaurent owners are the only ones who got the short end of the stick due to corona. Those who were slated to graduate this summer are royally fucked too. Or pensioners who were planning to sell stock from their retirement fund around this time. Or compare those who just signed a new contract a couple of months ago to those whose contract comes up now. Corona is simply creating a metric fuckton of injustice based on bad luck.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 17 2020 01:31pm

well I think we could shuffle around how the impacts are being absorbed across different fields
giving $1200 stimulus checks and $600 bonus to unemployment was not a solution and if anything is actually making the problem worse now. Give people money they can't spend and disincentive working and drive up labor costs? Its a huge problem when unemployment pays more than jobs.
the next round of economic stimulus should be aimed specifically at industries that have been hard hit, giving them capital to restart and incentives to rehire. Ease the burdens and subsidize it up the chain of labor, utilities, mortgages, property taxes, etc at local/state/federal levels. If businesses are going to be told that in order to re-open they have to provide PPE and sanitizing equipment, maybe those are costs that should be shared

I agree on the "unemployment being more lucrative than returning to work"-part. Although I consider shitty service jobs not paying living wages to be the root issue rather than supposedly overgenerous unemployment checks.

The other points you make... with some abstraction, the exact same arguments could be made in favor of universal, if not even fully socialized, healthcare.

Don't know if posted

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d1WTSr9vLqcEnmCIrE5PfkWQZZy8jEAJ/view?usp=sharing

Talks about how covid was enhanced and manipulated to spread much faster, how the doctors are pressured to report deaths as covid to Rake up the numbers.
Talks how Anthony Fauci is working with all the big pharma trying to patent cures and profit from covid pandemic.

Take out small business loans and pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. March on Washington DC with AR-15s and break into McConnell's office and force him to vote on a more generous bill. There's a lot of stuff they can do to direct their anger.

You bring up a good point though regarding people not wanting to eat out anyway. There's nothing you can really do about that and sometimes it's best to move on. People switch careers often, businesses fail, etc. It's a part of life.



Oh I heard about this chick. She's a fucking idiot and has been debunked by hundreds of people. Don't believe everything you see on the internet!

This post was edited by thundercock on May 17 2020 03:05pm

I'd like to see what the debunkers have to say. Any you recommend?

Sounds a lot like government picking winners and losers.