LOL if you think it is just baseless accidents you are in denial.

since you seem incapable of reading for context let me help you out:



this can be read as:

(unlikely scenario but possible) OR (more likely scenario), how i meant it of course.

or how you read it

"trump is literally a nazi and dont bother reading anything after the OR"



yes, do bold the only part that justifies your idiotic posts. i even said the direction its facing is a distinction, it not holding scrolls or other american symbols is a distinction, and neglected to list not having a stars and stripes flag on it's chest as another distinction.

then what did you do lol? posted a bunch of dissimilar eagles all failing the simple distinctions i laid out with hyperbolic meme captions on each shitpost. you cant even read a simple statement lol.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 2 2020 01:30pm

>Snipa flailing instead of reflecting on truth

Snore.

You were wrong. Its ok to admit it.

You parroted the left's ridiculous narrative on this and precluded factual alternatives while writing off mitigating factors and similar uses of eagles that I brought up.
No amount of delusional and petty attacks on me is going to change this.

The eagle is fine, its not a nazi eagle, and there are totally reasonable and non-nazi reasons for its use.
But the left wants to say 'orange man bad' and cry racist on everything.
You are happy to play into their narratives. I'm not.

Now this here is an actual strawman:



In fact I explicitly brought up and mocked that false dichotomy here:


You are trying to retreat to a very narrow 'but im not saying Trump himself is a literal nazi' and making up quotes that dont reflect my positions
..instead of addressing and accepting the merit of my actual responses.

The trump shirt eagle is carrying an American Flag "instead of scrolls or other american symbols"?
How nefarious!

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jul 2 2020 01:55pm

how many posts is it going to take for you to get that "that's 100% a nazi eagle" was never my point, nor a hill i was willing or trying to die on.

want to know why it sounds like deflection? because you got overly focused on a few lines from paragraphs of posts into strawmanning me while i told you over and over strawmanning was all you were doing.

the left's hyperbolic reactions to Trump aren't a counter to my argument, they're central to it. he's president, he needs to learn to observe and retroactively out maneuver such predictable idiots. instead he keeps playing into their hands with completely avoidable nonsense. aka my point all along.

but sure, make another post about how its NOT a nazi eagle. do that again. get them out of your system so you can stop looking as stupid and unaware of your surroundings as Trump.

its funny how Tcock could read my posts and come away with the obvious point im trying to make, get a staffer to avoid Dem nonsense instead of being oblivious to it. but here you are 10 some odd posts later stuck on the fact that i dared to suggest someone in the campaign could be doing this by anything but complete accident. not even that i said that's the reality, or that he's literally dog whistling, no no. just the mere mention that this is a factual possibility was enough to set your course. how dare someone point out a logical possibility with no facts to discount it lol.

You are strawmanning me thinking im strawmanning you.

Saying that you are saying "thats 100% a nazi eagle" was not the point of my posts.

You are trying to attack a very weak interpretation/version of my posts instead of really looking at what was said.

You dismissed mitigating factors, said 'the fuck out of here' when the fact of it being a stock image was brought up, and referred to the facing of the eagle to dismiss numerous other eagles that are commonly used in America.
Multiple times you claimed it was nazi symbolism and mocked people who would say otherwise or bring up other eagles.
You can run away from all that if you want but the posts are still there. Maybe you can ask a mod to delete them for you.


I think there was some miscommunication at some point and I don't particularly feel like flaming you more at the moment.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jul 2 2020 02:17pm

This summarizes 99% of all interactions with you, because you don't stop and think what the other person's intention is. You immediately jump to the least charitable interpretation you can think of and run with it.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jul 2 2020 02:18pm

A right facing eagle is a Nazi symbol, not all right facing eagles are nazi eagles. just as not all rectangles are squares.

the point i was making all along is that there are only a few things Trump needs to edit out to take all of the fuel away from dems. if you want to use an eagle make it as fucking american as you can, put an american flag on the eagle just like many in military regalia, have it holding a scroll, etc. dont use some free stock image for official campaign merch. that's dumb.

my distaste doesnt come from a leftist perspective of "hes a nazi who's dog whistling nazis", my distaste comes from a campaign and regime with billions of dollars behind it still getting put on a leash by dems with lazy connections to white supremacists. i earnestly believe self censorship would cost them less than the spin team they pay to counter the left, but censorship of one's self has been politicized by Trump. you either speak your mind and dont apologize or you are a leftist cuck.

i said fuck outta here to the stock image factoid because why is a national campaign using stock images for official merch in the place? just post on twitter asking for designs from Trump base voters, they're must be 1,000 professional graphics artists who voted for trump. but no, cheap, dirty, quick turn around for the lowest cost. that's the trump way, and its part of what causes so many predictable fumbles.



basically. color blind bull who sees only red. everyone is a leftist cuck as soon as they post basically.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 2 2020 02:22pm

Go away, worm.

He shared and supported the left's narrative on the eagle shirt, and was using it to attack Trump and his staff, and mocking those who would disagree.

I decided to post facts related to that story that refuted and damaged the left's narrative.
He could have chosen to be honest and reflective and accept what I posted.
Instead he chose to double down and attack me, and later cried strawman and retreated to a narrower hole.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Jul 2 2020 02:23pm

me: inb4 someone posts a bunch of left facing eagles

cam: (posts left facing eagles montage)

me: fuck outta here

cam: why wont you take my clear fumble from the get go more seriously, please take me seriously, please, i need it.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 2 2020 02:25pm

1. "inb4" is not a valid intellectual tool that rightfully dismisses evidence inconvenient to your narrative.

2. A plethora of eagles being used as American symbolism is a relevant fact, regardless of which way they are facing.

3. You edited your post to include that part at the end.

4. Imagine being so dishonest you claim thats an accurate representation of the exchange.

Claiming you don't take me seriously as an excuse to justify failing to properly address and refute what I say or defend your claims is representative of your anti-intellectualism.
I'm not begging anyone to take me seriously.