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Dec 2 2021 01:29pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Dec 2 2021 02:24pm)
you have become boring fender, you know that?

and please dont project your sexual fantasies onto me

that being said, please remind me when i ever posted that it was ok for an amazon employee to be forced to piss into a bottle

being against terrible working conditions is common sense, i dont have to embrace the left wing utopia for that

speaking out against things like corporate wokeism or radical feminism, which are nothing but corporate scams makes me more anti corporate than you, oh i love the irony ^_^

meanwhile you still think people like aoc are interested in others, while she laughs on her way to the bank


The piss in the bottle is due to profit driven corps taken to the extreme when they go unchecked and is clearly fine by capitalists as they value profit over anything else
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 2 Dec 2021 20:24)
you have become boring fender, you know that?

and please dont project your sexual fantasies onto me

that being said, please remind me when i ever posted that it was ok for an amazon employee to be forced to piss into a bottle

being against terrible working conditions is common sense, i dont have to embrace the left wing utopia for that

speaking out against things like corporate wokeism or radical feminism, which are nothing but corporate scams makes me more anti corporate than you, oh i love the irony ^_^

meanwhile you still think people like aoc are interested in others, while she laughs on her way to the bank


so which right wing politician will do anything about it? why don't you support them? or is your "oppostition" to it just words, and in reality you support the side that is 100% in bed with those corporations, as opposed to those on the left that actually introduce legislation to properly tax / break up / unionise / hold them accountable?

oh right, just virtue signaling about opposing their greed and exploitation, while deep throating their boot until they take a stance against racism, which hurts your feelings.
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Dec 2 2021 02:05pm
Quote (fender @ Dec 2 2021 08:34pm)
so which right wing politician will do anything about it? why don't you support them? or is your "oppostition" to it just words, and in reality you support the side that is 100% in bed with those corporations, as opposed to those on the left that actually introduce legislation to properly tax / break up / unionise / hold them accountable?

oh right, just virtue signaling about opposing their greed and exploitation, while deep throating their boot until they take a stance against racism, which hurts your feelings.


there are none, thats 2021 politics for you

you can choose between politicians, who are cashing in one way or the other and let you keep more of your own money, or you can choose the likes of bernie, who wont keep their promises but tax you and businesses into oblivion to control you, while still filling their own pockets and creating useless government jobs for their people

corporations in america especially know that the bernie/aoc utopia is not going to happen, as i said, their fake virtue signalling is only to extract money from the likes of you

i will choose the pro capitalist, pro low taxes, pro business polticians every single time, because its better for me and thats all you can do

of course people with their sociology/liberal arts degree and zero net contribution to society want bernie and aoc to save them

but they wont
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 2 Dec 2021 21:05)
there are none, thats 2021 politics for you

you can choose between politicians, who are cashing in one way or the other and let you keep more of your own money, or you can choose the likes of bernie, who wont keep their promises but tax you and businesses into oblivion to control you, while still filling their own pockets and creating useless government jobs for their people

corporations in america especially know that the bernie/aoc utopia is not going to happen, as i said, their fake virtue signalling is only to extract money from the likes of you

i will choose the pro capitalist, pro low taxes, pro business polticians every single time, because its better for me and thats all you can do

of course people with their sociology/liberal arts degree and zero net contribution to society want bernie and aoc to save them

but they wont


so you don't support anyone who opposes the things you pretend to oppose (textbook virtue signaling btw), because the others at least pander to little racists like yourself, gotcha.

btw, there is a difference between "low taxes" that are good for YOU, and a "low taxes" that are good for billionaire CEOs. tax breaks in america have NOT been a net gain for the average citizen, it's just the good old trickle down scam over and over again. if you look at healthcare cost, wages, and worker protection, the low tax rate does nothing to improve YOUR life. obviously you don't have the intelligence to see through that stupid narrative, as flawed and flimsy as it might be, but the "high tax dystopia" that pro corporate con-men have successfully sold you, would predominantly hurt THEM and their bottom line, while overall relieving financial pressure on the middle and working class. you'd know that if you were a critical thinker and able to compare european tax models with the US one, but alas... once you move out of your mother boyfriend's basement and start earning your own money, you will see that cost of living is more than just your tax rate...
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Dec 2 2021 02:58pm
Quote (fender @ Dec 2 2021 09:39pm)
so you don't support anyone who opposes the things you pretend to oppose (textbook virtue signaling btw), because the others at least pander to little racists like yourself, gotcha.

btw, there is a difference between "low taxes" that are good for YOU, and a "low taxes" that are good for billionaire CEOs. tax breaks in america have NOT been a net gain for the average citizen, it's just the good old trickle down scam over and over again. if you look at healthcare cost, wages, and worker protection, the low tax rate does nothing to improve YOUR life. obviously you don't have the intelligence to see through that stupid narrative, as flawed and flimsy as it might be, but the "high tax dystopia" that pro corporate con-men have successfully sold you, would predominantly hurt THEM and their bottom line, while overall relieving financial pressure on the middle and working class. you'd know that if you were a critical thinker and able to compare european tax models with the US one, but alas... once you move out of your mother boyfriend's basement and start earning your own money, you will see that cost of living is more than just your tax rate...


i want minimum taxes for everyone and in case you forgot, these evil high earners are already paying the overwhelming amount of all taxes

we both live in the high tax utopia aoc/bernie want the united states to be right now, its called germany and i would have significantly more money in my pocket in any low tax us state despite the issues

the only idea sold to me was that high taxes, insurance cost, energy prices etc while being in a shitty wage country would be in my interest and as a 17 yo leftie idiot back in the day i believed that shit....not anymore

i love your projections, in reality you just want to leech from productive people, thats all
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Dec 2 2021 03:18pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 2 Dec 2021 21:58)
i want minimum taxes for everyone and in case you forgot, these evil high earners are already paying the overwhelming amount of all taxes

we both live in the high tax utopia aoc/bernie want the united states to be right now, its called germany and i would have significantly more money in my pocket in any low tax us state despite the issues

the only idea sold to me was that high taxes, insurance cost, energy prices etc while being in a shitty wage country would be in my interest and as a 17 yo leftie idiot back in the day i believed that shit....not anymore

i love your projections, in reality you just want to leech from productive people, thats all


in "reality" you don't care about exploitative capitalism, about shitty working conditions, and corporate greed that destroy the planet and the middle class, it's just virtue signaling. you actually just support those that share your shitty world view, the ones that successfully washed your smooth brain with culture war propaganda. your only true "principle" is bigotry.
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Dec 2 2021 03:24pm
Quote (fender @ 2 Dec 2021 20:17)
another smooth brain who can't distinguish between intention and political feasibility (while also ignoring the small but noticeable progress that was made thanks to their efforts - something you usually exaggerate and fear monger about when it fits your narrative btw). this is a different argument entirely though, my point is that their anti-corporate greed and exploitation policies are popular with the left, which is something you simply can't refute. i never claimed or even suggested they represent the majority within the democratic party (of course they don't because the dems' establishment consists of corporate puppets, just like the ENTIRE gop), otherwise i wouldn't describe the US as a de facto oligarchy, would i?

obviously you have to pivot away from my actual argument, but the facts remain the same: the left opposes corporate exploitation, the right opposes corporations when they take a stance against racism.




This is a blatant misrepresentation of how things actually are:

It is not "the left" that's genuinely focused on opposing corporate exploitation, it's a minority movement within the political left. Heck, it's even a minority within the American progressive movement while the majority of squad members are predominantly busy promoting cultural progressivism and racial demagoguery.

Also, the mainstream right opposes corporations on a lot of things, not just when they align themselves with wokeism. The contemporary right also opposes corporations on freedom of speech, personal liberty, gun rights, migration, job outsourcing, criminal justice and foreign investment.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 2 Dec 2021 22:24)
^thundercock


This is a blatant misrepresentation of how things actually are:

It is not "the left" that's genuinely focused on opposing corporate exploitation, it's a minority movement within the political left. Heck, it's even a minority within the American progressive movement while the majority of squad members are predominantly busy promoting cultural progressivism and racial demagoguery.

Also, the mainstream right opposes corporations on a lot of things, not just when they align themselves with wokeism. The contemporary right also opposes corporations on freedom of speech, personal liberty, gun rights, migration, job outsourcing, criminal justice and foreign investment.


give me a break, the right only ever cares about "freedom of speech" when it comes to protecting racist / bigoted speech, while at the same time pushing initiatives to censor LGBT literature and honest history, lol.

that's why there aren't ANY right wing politicians actually pushing back against corporate practices, just culture warriors clutching their pearls about woke messaging.
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Dec 2 2021 03:51pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Dec 2 2021 03:24pm)
^thundercock


This is a blatant misrepresentation of how things actually are:

It is not "the left" that's genuinely focused on opposing corporate exploitation, it's a minority movement within the political left. Heck, it's even a minority within the American progressive movement while the majority of squad members are predominantly busy promoting cultural progressivism and racial demagoguery.

Also, the mainstream right opposes corporations on a lot of things, not just when they align themselves with wokeism. The contemporary right also opposes corporations on freedom of speech, personal liberty, gun rights, migration, job outsourcing, criminal justice and foreign investment.


The right is generally okay with coroporations on virtually everything. They were and are fine with censorship as long as its censorship they like. There is no ideological stance to anything you've listed as them being against. It's purely a case of "If it happens to me its bad".

Democrats are still on the right, which is why they are also generally don't put up real resistance to corporations on almost anything.


The left in America are the ones who actively propose things that will take away corporate power. America doesn't lack a national healthcare system for any practical reason. It's because corporate power would suffer as people are no longer tied to their jobs for health insurance. and both parties, Democrats and Republicans, like that being the state of affairs.
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