>raise local taxes on the rich by $X billion
>rich people deduct $X billion from federal taxes
>federal budget drops by $X billion, local taxpayers pay an extra $0, state budget rises by $X billion
>"we will serve drugs and alcohol to our homeless as they stay at hotels during the coronavirus epidemic at taxpayer expense"

ye something like that
Its also one of the provable indicators that this relief bill is not intended to pass and was made just for partisan purposes. Even negotiating down from this point would mean stripping the whole bill. Its like a less aggressively obscene version of the last house bill that demanded diversity quotas and airline carbon caps. I think putting in the SALT deductions is a big unforced error, since it gives politicos and red state republicans an opportunity to lambast democrats as trying to give a tax cut to billionaires

Would only go down by the federal rate on the amount they deducted. I.e. if they deducated 2m in local tax then the feds missed out on 30% of 2m, not the full 2m.

Doesnt make it as lucrative as you are making it out to be since it will still always be cheaper to live in lower local tax areas or states.

I like the bit where it'd allow for funds to help illegal aliens. I mean, 36 million Americans on unemployment and we want to provide extra incentives for more people to flood into the US?

It's a joke bill. It certainly won't make it through the senate in it's current form, and even if it did, it'd receive a great big shiney V.

The SALT tax cap deduction repeal attempt is just more salt into the wound. We're talking about the federal government giving out an epic fuckton of money to both the state governments AND the people and businesses within those states, yet blue states that tax at enormous rates (California, NY, etc.) would end up watching their federal income tax go to next to nothing. "Hey, our state doesn't really pay taxes anymore, but we're going to get a trillion in benefit from those poor fools who do. HAHAHAHA!"

Big nopers.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 16 2020 08:32am

the walrus wouldnt fit inside the circle anyway...

Flat translation of article from the one of the best existing french neutral source:


"
Covid-19 pandemic, a boon for end-of-the-world theorists
Witnesses of Jehovah, traditionalist Catholics or evangelicals, the current crisis would validate, according to them, a millenarian theory. Some preachers have made it an attractive argument.
Most victims of sectarian aberrations do not present any particular pathology at the origin. These are completely normal people, maybe a little more fragile, but we have to keep in mind that we are all more vulnerable right now
"


Jehovah's Witnesses

"This pandemic is a boon for movements such as Jehovah's Witnesses. They can say 'we were right, trust us'. The community maintains this feeling. Because the more people are afraid, the less they reason," explains Daniel at franceinfo. A member of Jehovah's Witnesses for thirty years, he nevertheless denounces its methods and teachings today without being able to bring himself to leave the community: he would be excommunicated and could no longer see his children and grandchildren. But, even more than in the past, he is worried about the influence of the movement on his loved ones. "'We feel that it is the end [of the world]', members confide in me. They are so conditioned by the official discourse between Witnesses that they cannot envisage this pandemic otherwise," he deplores.
In Jehovah's worship, the Apocalypse announced by the Bible would inaugurate the arrival of paradise on Earth and the destruction of all those who are not Witnesses. "We believe that the pandemic is one of the signs of the last days, just like wars and other diseases. The prophecies of the Bible announce the end of a system, that of men, so that it is replaced by a system governed by God. The pandemic is a sign which makes it possible to speak about the end of this system ", answers the national seat of Jehovah's Witnesses, contacted by franceinfo.
To face this event, the community wants to be omnipresent and essential. At the start of the confinement, "she notably sent a list of basic necessities to buy and invited her to stock for a month".


Traditionalist Catholicism

The police intervened twice for masses of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint-Pie-X which were held despite the confinement. On the evening of April 11, in the parish of Saint-Nicolas du Chardonnet in Paris, around thirty clergymen and choirboys were gathered for a Mass in Latin. None were masked or respected the barrier gestures, AFP reported. "We know how this fraternity works. All external authority is not recognized, reports the Unadfi. There is only the hierarchy of god and the clergy. Then, in the family, there is only the father "It is a closed community. The children go to schools run by the members of the Brotherhood. They do not know the outside world and the only speech they hear on this pandemic is theirs." Not really in agreement with that of science, in this case.


Evangelic fanatics

In his office on March 8, Pastor Castanou does not hesitate to recommend the laying on of hands - putting them on someone to bless him - as a miracle cure for illness. He even encourages his faithful to ignore distancing measures in order to heal their loved ones and recite a prayer for healing. "You laid your hand on your child? It is not contagious. I have never been infected," said Yvan Castanou in particular at the meeting. Before continuing: "My wife was very sick once. She had a fever. She said to me 'don't touch me, I'm going to contaminate you'. I told her 'it's impossible, because there has an eternal life in me. I contaminate with divine life. "







super old really

Life is very hard for some people.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/jaysondbradley/2020/05/how-a-plague-exposed-the-christian-nation-myth/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=share_bar&utm_campaign=share_bar_facebook&fbclid=IwAR1caasyF1LlvPT3xU8jZfA620Rzp-mII2PqBtFaBeet1H_nqp167_Hf5EM

As we all know, the correct approach is to quote the smallest snippet possible so as not to pollute your point with any context that the original authors may have intended.
In citing Mathew, he should have stuck with "For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it." This makes it clear that risking your death through infection (especially when you have solid health insurance and conditions that minimize that risk) is a righteous act. Putting others at risk (even others who are at far greater risk due to their less affluent circumstances) is simply giving them a greater opportunity to be better Christians.
Bringing in the previous sentence distracts from the message that risking other people's death is OK by implying that Jesus may have been making a call to self sacrifice and action to the benefit of others. "Denying themselves," "taking up their cross," these types of phrases are clearly irrelevant to the point being made in the sentence that follows.
When read properly, this passage (I mean sentence) is a clear cut case of Jesus supporting keeping the churches open. Come to think of it, you could skip the first half of the sentence as well. Yes, that would be much better.

This post was edited by theCrossbones on May 17 2020 08:40am

Sorry but:
More likely he can fuck off and i would be glad to lock him in a cell.

/e Christianity has to adapt, not to fall into this. This kind of deviance is a cancer for both sides.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 17 2020 08:47am

agreed.. im just showing how much bs comes from the religious nut bags