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Nov 7 2023 07:18am
Quote (Many_Names @ 7 Nov 2023 21:08)
They already have a state its called Jordan
Which is a part of former british mandate of Palestine.
There are majority of Palestinians there.
So they can join them over there if they do not accept our security needs.

Israel will never attack another country like any other democracy.


But the Palestinians in Israel Gaza area doesn't see it that way. If they did , you wouldn't have so many terrorist attacks for such a long time ya ?

I am going to be rather pragmatic here but at the same time it might sound extremely cold towards the Palestinians.
This is of course going to ruffle feathers but it is what it is.

Work with those that want to stay and be civil, those that don't, push them out of Gaza into the South.
Manage the demographics between Palestinians and Jews. The current demographics is almost half and half. If the Palestinian Arabs out produce the Jewish community it will cease to be a Jewish State.

It is going to be rather painful for regional relationship for a few decades, but there is nothing in the world that cannot be solved with time.
If this happens, you better make sure that the United States is still the preeminent Economical, Political and military clout in the region.
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Nov 7 2023 07:23am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 7 Nov 2023 15:18)
But the Palestinians in Israel Gaza area doesn't see it that way. If they did , you wouldn't have so many terrorist attacks for such a long time ya ?

I am going to be rather pragmatic here but at the same time it might sound extremely cold towards the Palestinians.
This is of course going to ruffle feathers but it is what it is.

Work with those that want to stay and be civil, those that don't, push them out of Gaza into the South.
Manage the demographics between Palestinians and Jews. The current demographics is almost half and half. If the Palestinian Arabs out produce the Jewish community it will cease to be a Jewish State.

It is going to be rather painful for regional relationship for a few decades, but there is nothing in the world that cannot be solved with time.
If this happens, you better make sure that the United States is still the preeminent Economical, Political and military clout in the region.


This Palestinian Jordanian speaks about the bds movement
But listen to the subtext
No different between jordanian and palestinian
Hashemites are alien to the land
Jordan own 78% of the area that was once british mandate of palestine




And what I am trying to say is that countries in the region understood they cant beat us with force
So they use lies, proxies and specially using palestinians to keep us in a emergency state.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Nov 7 2023 07:31am
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 7 Nov 2023 15:18)
But the Palestinians in Israel Gaza area doesn't see it that way. If they did , you wouldn't have so many terrorist attacks for such a long time ya ?

I am going to be rather pragmatic here but at the same time it might sound extremely cold towards the Palestinians.
This is of course going to ruffle feathers but it is what it is.

Work with those that want to stay and be civil, those that don't, push them out of Gaza into the South.
Manage the demographics between Palestinians and Jews. The current demographics is almost half and half. If the Palestinian Arabs out produce the Jewish community it will cease to be a Jewish State.

It is going to be rather painful for regional relationship for a few decades, but there is nothing in the world that cannot be solved with time.
If this happens, you better make sure that the United States is still the preeminent Economical, Political and military clout in the region.


If you want to listen to another lecture of his:
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Nov 7 2023 07:47am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 7 2023 01:23pm)
This Palestinian Jordanian speaks about the bds movement
But listen to the subtext
No different between jordanian and palestinian
Hashemites are alien to the land
Jordan own 78% of the area that was once british mandate of palestine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivEjubIYWC4

And what I am trying to say is that countries in the region understood they cant beat us with force
So they use lies, proxies and specially using palestinians to keep us in a emergency state.


I am always looking to view a situation from different perspectives, so thank you for posting these videos.
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Nov 7 2023 07:49am
Quote (ferdia @ 7 Nov 2023 15:47)
I am always looking to view a situation from different perspectives, so thank you for posting these videos.


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Nov 7 2023 08:01am
Quote (Many_Names @ 7 Nov 2023 21:24)
If you want to listen to another lecture of his:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cv_HW_wh6E


I will watch what he says and keep my mind open.
But a quick KYC and Due Diligence doesn't look good on him.

"In September 2019, due to "security reasons", he was denied entry into Israel where he was scheduled to meet with right-wing and settler leaders.[2] The Jerusalem Post reported that Zahran had faced accusations by some in Israel (including columnists Ruthie Blum and Dr Harold Rhode, the Post's writer Caroline Glick and the Elder of Ziyon blog[1]) of being a "fraud" and that his so-called the "Jordan Opposition Coalition" is only present on the internet without a real backing in Jordan"
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Nov 7 2023 08:08am
Two state solution wont work. Westbank is too fragmented with settlements for Palestine to have a unified state. Also to play devils advocate here it would be a security risk for Israel for Palestine to have a soverign nation and own borders. Imagine freely allowing Iranians or other hostile groups into the country that are hostilebl towards Israel?

One state solution wont work. That would destroy the Jewish identity as a majority

My solution? A radical two state solution. Move the entire gaza population into westbank. Israel annexes gaza and moves all the settlements into gaza with exception of settlements near west jerusalem. East jerusalem capital of palestine. West jerusalem capital of israel. Joint military by both members to defend botb nations
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Nov 7 2023 08:11am
Quote (aabdel20 @ 7 Nov 2023 16:08)
Two state solution wont work. Westbank is too fragmented with settlements for Palestine to have a unified state. Also to play devils advocate here it would be a security risk for Israel for Palestine to have a soverign nation and own borders. Imagine freely allowing Iranians or other hostile groups into the country that are hostilebl towards Israel?

One state solution wont work. That would destroy the Jewish identity as a majority

My solution? A radical two state solution. Move the entire gaza population into westbank. Israel annexes gaza and moves all the settlements into gaza with exception of settlements near west jerusalem. East jerusalem capital of palestine. West jerusalem capital of israel. Joint military by both members to defend botb nations


I completely agree with this
Joint military only after decade or two passed with complete quiet and collaboration
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Nov 7 2023 08:13am
palestinian supporters in the west murdered a jewish man by smacking him in the head with a megaphone. so much for peaceful demonstrations.

This post was edited by Budgeting on Nov 7 2023 08:13am
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Nov 7 2023 08:14am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 7 Nov 2023 16:01)
I will watch what he says and keep my mind open.
But a quick KYC and Due Diligence doesn't look good on him.

"In September 2019, due to "security reasons", he was denied entry into Israel where he was scheduled to meet with right-wing and settler leaders.[2] The Jerusalem Post reported that Zahran had faced accusations by some in Israel (including columnists Ruthie Blum and Dr Harold Rhode, the Post's writer Caroline Glick and the Elder of Ziyon blog[1]) of being a "fraud" and that his so-called the "Jordan Opposition Coalition" is only present on the internet without a real backing in Jordan"


The second lecture is from an Israeli univercity
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