Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 2 2020 09:16am)

https://i.redd.it/58rexkf4ff851.jpg
Official Trump merch.
I'm having a harder and harder time explaining these away with "wow that's just a really dumb error".
either someone in the team really likes winking at Nazi symbology OR this really is a case of just a completely inept job on their media team.
NO, this is not similar to USMC or Presidential seal eagles. does that mean Hitler didnt really die in Germany and is actually still alive working behind the scenes with lab created organs and cyborg implants to play Trump like a marionette? No. what it means is either someone likes Nazi symbols or even several pending scandals aren't enough to teach the media team how to separate themselves from these "coincidences". They need to hire someone just to research Nazi symbols and cross check designs to avoid them. It's honestly worth paying some staffer 50k salary just for this job because this shit is embarrassing.
inb4 "that's not a Nazi eagle". its not holding scrolls or anything but a circle, it's facing right, it's bill isn't like American bald eagle symbology, etc. so don't @ me with that nonsense.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 2 2020 12:13pm)

This is the dumbest discussion PaRD has seen in at least a year, and it involved neither fender, nor saucy, nor Ghot.
Not sure if you guys should be proud or ashamed of yourselves.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 2 2020 12:13pm)

This is the dumbest discussion PaRD has seen in at least a year, and it involved neither fender, nor saucy, nor Ghot.
Not sure if you guys should be proud or ashamed of yourselves.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 2 2020 01:22pm)

Cam is on the same level as Ghot. He learned about libertarianism when he was 14 and decided he would never learn more about the world from that point forward. It was fun 10 years ago when we were all young, but the rest of us grew up and Cam just kept doubling down.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 2 Jul 2020 19:22)

Cam is on the same level as Ghot. He learned about libertarianism when he was 14 and decided he would never learn more about the world from that point forward. It was fun 10 years ago when we were all young, but the rest of us grew up and Cam just kept doubling down.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 2 2020 12:27pm)

He's needlessly mad and abrasive, and he seems unable and unwilling to put away his ideological blinders, but he's still far smarter than Ghot. With Cam, it's an active decision to stick to a one-dimensional worldview. With Ghot, it's genuine inability to see the bigger picture.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 2 2020 12:25pm)

the discussion of whether Trump should be cognizant of his criticism is dumb? how many times can this idiot get connected to Nazi symbols, KKK members, and Jim Crow rhetoric before he does the bare minimum? that being even a cursory check of his messaging?

sure "see see Trump is a literal Nazi", aka the only thing Cam is capable of responding to, is dumb. but that was never my point. its a broad issue with Trump and his campaign/media team. Retweeting videos from known fake news outlets while decrying fake news, recycled KKK slogans, Nazi symbology, etc. It's a pattern.

keep in mind as someone who wants to see Trump lose and someone who thinks this is a bad thing for him it doesnt make me mad. im just annoyed watching someone fumble on the national stage so often, its like watching a wide receiver that can't catch the ball.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 2 2020 12:32pm)

Good to see our last conversation could show you the obvious. Trump just genuinely doesn't care if he panders to white supremacists. I don't think he's concerned with the moral implications of pretty much anything as long as it gets him reelected.

Quote (thesnipa @ 2 Jul 2020 19:36)

see that's the thing tho, i see this as not caring if he panders to them AND it hurting his reelection. the "fuck leftists" attitude doesn't sway centrists, its a turn off. his signalling to his base wont have the same effect in 2020 as 2016 imo.