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Editor's note: This item was updated to make clear that we are rating whether Trump described what happened accurately, not the separate question of whether what happened amounted to self-defense or, as charged by local prosecutors, homicide and other offenses.

"In this fact-check, we are not examining the question of whether Rittenhouse acted in self-defense, as his attorney claims. We are examining whether Trump is providing an accurate description of what happened by focusing on only a portion of the events of that night.

He is not.

Let’s take a look. "

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Was the video available to the public? Because that can still be false if therec wasnt an available video.

We know from the court proceedings that Rittenhouse was indeed "trying to get away from them" and that he was indeed violently attacked by Rosenbaum, Huber and another protester. So, which of Trump's statements is factually incorrect?




Here is how politifact justified its "false" rating:


He was indeed violently attacked, without any deriding braces.


Are they fucking serious?


By the time he fell, he had already killed a person in blatant and crystal-clear self-defense, a person who was a criminal and who had violently attacked him in the first place. The pursuit and attack by Huber, Grosskreutz and others on Rittenhouse were not nearly as legally or morally justified as politifact is insinuating here. Those who followed and attacked him were at least as much of a vigilante as Rittenhouse himself.




So, after the trial and the evidence and testimonies we heard during it, it's clear that 1. every single thing Trump said was factual and 2. that every single reason politifact came up with to rate Trump's statement as "false (because misleading)" was incorrect. Trump had actually painted an accurate, rather than a misleading, picture of the events and politifact pulled contorted bullshit out of its ass because they desperately wanted to rate his statement as "false".

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 19 2021 11:39pm

If Trump didn't have a reason to say that, then it is false regardless of the state of affairs in Kenosha because he has nothing to base it on. That's my point. Was there an actual video he was basing his statements on? If there is, and it shows what was shown in court, then that's a blunder by politifact. However if there was no video and Trump was just repeating hearsay that wasn't publically available yet, then it wasn't a blunder.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Nov 19 2021 11:40pm

have you tried youtube? they have videos over there.

Trump, unlike Biden, actually viewed the videos floating around after the incident which showed Kyle acting in self-defense. They both commented on it publicly, Trump specifically said the video made it look like self-defense. Biden said he was a white supremacist.

One of the key pieces of evidence in the trial was the FBI footage of the altercation between Rittenhouse and Rosenbaum which proves that he killed him in self-defense. FBI circles must have known that it was most likely self-defense since the day after.

I don't think its far fetched that Trump was either shown the footage, or that someone from within the FBI passed this info to the AG or some staffer in the WH, who then gave it to Trump.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 19 2021 11:46pm