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We can disagree about degree, i think he gets too much of a pass on most things. I could be convinced he gets too much of a pass here. It would probably be pretty easy too. But its going to have to be based on his actions in or near the present.
What's not going to convince me is blatant whitewashing of Trump's dog whistling. You're going to have to argue that Biden deserves more, not that Trump wasn't that bad.
I wasn't commenting about Trump's alleged or real dog whistling. Trump was a scumbag who did and said outrageous things all the time and deserved a metric shitton of scrutiny and criticism by the media. I, personally, think that he
nonetheless was blasted and criticized and denied the benefit of the doubt even more often than he deserved. Biden, by contrast, is treated with kids gloves and given the benefit of the doubt by the media far more often than he deserves - even though he does indeed deserve a more friendly media than Trump did.
Let's rate the media stance on presidents on a scale from 0 (super cozy and friendly) to 100 (super critical and antagonistic). Then let's say Trump deserved a 70, but actually got a 90 while Biden deserves a 50, but actually gets a 25.
At the end of the day, both types of media treatment, Trump getting more flak than he should have and Biden less, are manifestations of the same thing: pro-liberal and/or pro-Democrat bias in the MSM.
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My position is that Biden is definitely still a little bit racist, but it mostly comes from his unexamined biases and not negative intentions. There is not a chance in hell that modern weiden would advocate for explicitly racist policies like he would in the past. Meanwhile Trump wasn't racist exactly but he was more than willing to emboldened racism as a useful tool for driving his own supporters. And in a lot of ways that's worse than being openly racist.
That's why Biden gets the benefit of the doubt. If he's corrected there is very little doubt he will change his views where appropriate, and he has actively taken steps to curtail his own biases.
Eh... I get your point, but it's hard to discern this "willing to learn and become a better man"-effect from the sheer fact that any kind of openly racist positioning is politically impossible for a present-day Democrat.
But fair enough. If I'm honest, I agree with you that Biden is not a genuinely racist person in his heart of hearts. I just wanted to point out the thing with the media bias and how difficult it actually is to defend Biden's comments against the backdrop of his less-than-stellar past.
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That's one of his cited reasons for picking his VP.
On that one, I have to call bullshit. He picked Harris because she was the only realistic option which ticked all the diversity checkboxes that he needed.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/10/biden-veep-selection-black-woman-393147https://www.npr.org/2020/06/12/875000650/pressure-grows-on-joe-biden-to-pick-a-black-woman-as-his-running-mateThis post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 14 2021 07:56pm