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The answer is obviously yes. I agree its far too obvious
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The answer is obviously yes. I agree its far too obvious


Indeed. Electric toothbrushes are much more useful for females. Very sexist.
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Indeed. Electric toothbrushes are much more useful for females. Very sexist.


I mean, I could print "women belong in the kitchen" on a tooth brush. Easy.

People who get triggered by these easy questions instead of engaging their analytical brain are exactly the people who need educated. It's easy to ask why you are paying for it, and the reason will escape you until dismissal of unconsidered ideas is no longer your default mode.
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I mean, I could print "women belong in the kitchen" on a tooth brush. Easy.

People who get triggered by these easy questions instead of engaging their analytical brain are exactly the people who need educated. It's easy to ask why you are paying for it, and the reason will escape you until dismissal of unconsidered ideas is no longer your default mode.


While true, it sticks out like a sore thumb that many colleges are trying to push an agenda whenever they can. The critical thinking of students could be sharpened with any variety of questions, problems or dilemmas, yet those that imply or push a certain liberal ideology are much more frequently chosen for this purpose than culturally neutral problems.

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While true, it sticks out like a sore thumb that many colleges are trying to push an agenda whenever they can. The critical thinking of students could be sharpened with any variety of questions, problems or dilemmas, yet those that imply or push a certain liberal ideology are much more frequently chosen for this purpose than culturally neutral problems.


Colleges absolutely should not be prioritizing culturally neutral problems. It is not the responsibility of institutions to be neutral, nor is it a reasonable thing to advocate for. They should be objective, and seek to actively push boundaries of student's mental capabilities. A neutral college would teach the argumens that the Earth is flat. An objective college addresses the misunderstandings, and points out the evidence only points one way, and that Flath Earth has no merit as a result.

For a lot of students challenging initial perceptions is a huge hurdle to overcome. Positing seeming ridiculous things like "can a toothbrush be sexist" and following up with a discussion that highlights an answer that's obvious to us, but not obvious to a student with that initial reaction, is a legitimate teaching strategy.


To give you a STEM example, in my Gen Chem I course, the professor asked "So, learning what we just learned about IR, do you think there's any merit to the claims of global warming?" and a ~50 year old student in the back yelled "Depends if you're Al Gore or somebody with a brain". Note, this was right after our lecture on IR absorption, where CO2 was the highlighted case.

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Colleges absolutely should not be prioritizing culturally neutral problems. It is not the responsibility of institutions to be neutral, nor is it a reasonable thing to advocate for. They should be objective, and seek to actively push boundaries of student's mental capabilities. A neutral college would teach the argumens that the Earth is flat. An objective college addresses the misunderstandings, and points out the evidence only points one way, and that Flath Earth has no merit as a result.

For a lot of students challenging initial perceptions is a huge hurdle to overcome. Positing seeming ridiculous things like "can a toothbrush be sexist" and following up with a discussion that highlights an answer that's obvious to us, but not obvious to a student with that initial reaction, is a legitimate teaching strategy.


To give you a STEM example, in my Gen Chem I course, the professor asked "So, learning what we just learned about IR, do you think there's any merit to the claims of global warming?" and a ~50 year old student in the back yelled "Depends if you're Al Gore or somebody with a brain". Note, this was right after our lecture on IR absorption, where CO2 was the highlighted case.


one should also study in word gymnastics and confirmation bias to accommodate all kinds of nonsense oh wait... that's your major.

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one should also study in word gymnastics and confirmation bias to accommodate all kinds of nonsense oh wait... that's your major.


Aww man, yeah, you got me there. Yep. Mmmm. I've been wrecked.
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Aww man, yeah, you got me there. Yep. Mmmm. I've been wrecked.


Devils advocate is stonks
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kek

Quote (addone @ 9 Nov 2021 23:36)
one should also study in word gymnastics and confirmation bias to accommodate all kinds of nonsense oh wait... that's your major.

that user didnt pay for its education so it doesn’t care about objective questions like “why am i paying thousands for this”. taxpayer has always and will always support that user (a true waste of lefty privilege)

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