I wasn't talking or thinking about Biden specifically. It was a general comment on my perception of the public discourse on climate change and its political background. I'm of course massively influenced by the climate discourse in my own country, which is far more radical.


But that point aside, Biden's "slow and steady" rhetoric is just clever political spin. On pretty much every issue, Biden has been pulled to the left by the very liberal or progressive wing of his own party. And it's blatantly obvious that the squad members and their fellow travellers are chomping at the bits to move to something like the GND as quickly as possible. I'm confident that Biden's instincts would guide him toward a somewhat moderate, somewhat reasonable approach - but I have zero confidence in his resolve against the loons in his party. I just don't see why climate should be different than all the issues before it.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 6 2021 10:14pm

I mean he dropped from 3.5T to 1.8T pretty quickly so I don't think progressives really hold much sway. You're scared of something that doesn't have much power.

canceled pipelines here, has no issue with russian pipelines, begged opec+ russia to produce more oil quicker and at lower prices

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/opec-likely-stick-oil-output-plan-sources-say-2021-11-04/

That's because budget authority lies firmly with Congress, where the razor-thin majorities leave Democrats no other choice than to compromise. On a lot of other issues, the administration has far more power and a far wider discretion. For example, he was able to unilaterally cancel pipelines and return the US to the Paris climate accord without congressional input.

The Paris Climate Accord has no enforcement mechanisms. It's another example of "too little too late".

Boy, that's some really spooky stuff! What other radical left policies are you referring to?

This post was edited by thundercock on Nov 7 2021 08:27am

a country does not want to shut down its coal power plants?

send the tanks!

the military industrial complex will love that

I didn't claim that these were examples of radical lefty policies - it were examples of the discretion the POTUS has to enact policy in this field without being kept in check by Congress.

Once again: my previous, longer post outlined my general thoughts on climate change (you asked me about it!), not a narrow comment on the political situation with regard to climate change in the U.S.




You really need to read up on "soft law becomes hard law" to see how non-binding international treaties without enforcement mechanism can become binding over time and lead to real-world policy consequences.

Democrats like you every 10 years…..End of the world in ten years give us your money the world is ending. 10 years later the same damn lie for the last 50 years.

You need to get your story straight. First you're worried about AOC and the GND. I countered with the fact that Biden readily cut his social spending proposal in half so he seems pretty pragmatic. Then you brought up some of the executive actions that he's done and they seem to be on par with the stuff that Hussein Obama enacted. Who are these radical people in the administration that you're worried about? Do you think Janet Yellen is a covetous Jew? Do you think Mayorkas is going to abolish the US border with Mexico? Are you worried that Austin is going to force whites to be subservient to blacks and trans people in the military?