Quote (Black XistenZ @ 5 Nov 2021 22:26)
I have a mind-blowing idea: if Democrats want to enact big bold progressive legislation, how about they win more elections so that their Congressional majorities don't hinge on a conservative dude from a coal-loving, lily-white, R+infinity state?
It's completely absurd that Dems are getting furious about Manchin voting in line with the political leanings of his state.
you can't possibly be that gullible. the likes of manchin, sinema, pelosi, feinstein, biden... and pretty much every single republican vote for / against what their DONORS (and own financial interests) demand - not the "political leanings of (their) state", lol.
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 6 Nov 2021 01:20)
Bills which promise to give people free stuff and let some other, unpopular group pay for it will always poll well. If you wrote a bill promising to build a golden toilet for every American and let the billionaires pay for it, that bill would also poll well. ;)
This doesnt mean that people would still support it after both sides had time to put a partisan spin on the bill. Just look at Obamacare, which gave many people better healthcare coverage and was mostly paid for by people with higher incomes - it was still an electoral stinker for a couple of years before the electorate had warmed up to it. And even today, it's decently popular but not a political slam dunk.
those aren't bills about "golden toilets" or some other frivolous bs though, you hack - those are affordable and realistic policies that have proven successful in many of america's peer countries. you know that very well, that's why you can't address the issues directly, and have to come up with excuses featuring golden toilets to dismiss popular opinion and lick billionaire boot...
This post was edited by fender on Nov 5 2021 06:57pm