I have a mind-blowing idea: if Democrats want to enact big bold progressive legislation, how about they win more elections so that their Congressional majorities don't hinge on a conservative dude from a coal-loving, lily-white, R+infinity state?
It's completely absurd that Dems are getting furious about Manchin voting in line with the political leanings of his state.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 5 2021 03:27pm

"Bold progressive legislation"

That's not the infrastructure bill dude. The infrastructure bill is mostly shit we should have done 10 years ago. We're in "bare minimum" territory and having trouble passing that.

If Democrats actually campaigned massively on a bold progressive economic platform they would win a lot more. Instead they campaign on milk-toast minimum action that should have been campaigned for ten years ago.


Also, Manchin is absolutely not voting in line with the polticial leanings of his state. The legislation is massively popular in his state. The majority of likely voters support the package. Manchin is voting AGAINST his state because he personally benefits. He is a blatantly corrupt politician along with Sinema.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Nov 5 2021 03:33pm

Are you fucking serious right now? I want my policies passed no matter what!!!

Seriously, the Dems are LUCKY to have the majority. After election night, we thought we were looking at a 52-48 GOP majority. Remember that NC Senator who cheated on his wife? Why aren't we blaming him? What about Susan Collins' opponent? Joni Ernst's? I think Manchin gets WAY too much shit and the Dems are lucky AF to have him.

its more funny that a vile violent foreign voyeur thug “crunkt” wants people assaulted for negotiations on legislation

then again that user fully supports having individuals being stalked and harassed (or worse) in public bathroom stalls. it really is a sickness…

Dems take their place in the sun for granted. Hubris on overload

lol he was almost senator but he couldn’t keep his pants on and wasnt slick about it. didnt follow the slick willie playbook!

and now the country suffers for it

more covid deaths under harris/biden with 3 vaccines than under Trump
worse inflation
more expensive necessity prices
worse labor markets
begging opec+ russia for cheaper oil
putin and xi having field days
biden put in his place

I was talking about the Build Back Better/reconciliation bill. Spending $3.5 trillion on "human infrastructure" is economically progressive, and it is this bill which is struggling to get through. Without the tactical shenanigans surrounding BBB, the infrastructure bill would have passed a long time ago. Like I said before: it is the House progressives in tandem with Biden/Pelosi who are holding the bipartisan infrastructure bill hostage trying to gain leverage to ram through a piece of legislation (reconciliation bill) which does not have majority support.

If Biden/Pelosi wanted, the bipartisan infrastructure bill could pass next week.





No one but Manchin could have held the WV seat in 2018. On the other hand, Republicans are lucky AF to have Susan Collins. Her 2020 opponent (Sara Gideon?) ran a lazy, uninspired campaign, but Collins actually won by such a wide margin (8.6 points) that she presumably would have defeated even a much stronger opponent. The true story of the Maine race is that the polls completely missed the strength of Collins.

Some real talk without partisan bickering: Republicans were extremely lucky that the 2020 elections went down the way they did. Covid lingering, inflation surging and supply chain issues fucking things up were all inevitable. Biden and his admin made things worse, but the year 2021 was nonetheless bound to be a pile of shit for whoever presides over it. Same story with the Georgia runoffs: by losing them, Dems nominally have full control, but can't actually get anything truly meaningful done. The current 50+1/50 Senate is the ultimate blue ball setup for Democrats and exposes their internal division. Had Republicans retained control of the Senate, they would be blamed for the gridlock on Capitol Hill. Instead, Dems have to own most of it.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 5 2021 03:55pm

no they dont

the usual suspects here and in the media and in politics blame Trump for the VA state elections, because they decided to “run against him” for some bizarre reason