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#4821
Dec 4 2023 01:48am
Quote (lodd222 @ Dec 4 2023 02:50am)
what spirit are you using to discern or deny the validity of my statements.

the spirit using you did not deny my statement, however fled from having to accept the concept since it would expose your stronghold.

also the word of god,, image of god or true power of OG god was & is not English spoken by modern americans, it was a seemingly omnipotent, energy, voice or communication that made flesh if not souls.

it should be obviousl in 2023 that even if you had to ignore all rational thought and assume that wasnt true, it still would have to be in hebrew. so technically even by your own standards your worshiping the wrong god since jesus was hebrew(yahusha) and the word of god is hebrew not modern english.

so youd have to learn KJV or great bible old english to better understand the word of god in hebrew. Im merely revealing its none of those options because it was something only god emanated.

more fundamental flaws in your bending the knee to baal unfortunately, please do not use centruy old documents to worship, ignore & justify the modernization of global catastrophe.


hopefully by this true fire light you can see youre under a scripted g o spel, and worshipping lucifers good side instead of the soul that the og creator gave you to live out w free testimony and agency.\
once again, the perils of gullible faith when paired w/ pineal gland blindness.

id personally recommend you try to transition by "bringing every thought or action into conscious discernment", a kind of "renewing of your mind", so that unconscious mechanisms dont continue to possess yoit psyche via these script spells youre entranced or enthralled by.


Did you just answer my question with a question?
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Dec 4 2023 01:01pm
Quote (CPK001 @ Dec 4 2023 01:48am)
Did you just answer my question with a question?


'For-our-sake', he was crucified under PONTIus PilAte,


https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/lexicon.show/id/g5331/pharmakeia.htm


he suffered, died, and was berry'd.
]https://ibb.co/zPrW6XH

On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heavenand is seeded at the write hand of the fatHER.
https://www.bibleref.com/Revelation/17/Revelation-17-6.html

https://ibb.co/RPdBN39


He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead...

https://biblehub.com/revelation/12-17.htm
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/The_Bride_Of_Christ/

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Dec 5 2023 11:21pm
Quote (El1te @ Nov 20 2023 10:29am)
Atheism is the repression of the human spirit, drive, motivation, creativity, hope for a future, love, etc. etc. etc...

There's a reason all atheists are completely miserable, either look like concentration camp inmates or are morbidly obese, and are addicted to everything under the sun


But some of the world's greatest minds are atheists. Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, to name a few. The Greeks and Romans had very advanced cultures for their time, and they were not religious (aside from their pantheons of gods, which were more mythology than true religion). In fact, the spread of Christianity in Europe coincided with the Dark Ages and it was the most intellectually stunted period in the history of Europe.

I know that you are Christian and I am not gonna be one of those rude people who say to the face of a Christian that his religion is fake, but I really think you are a bit biased when you say that atheism represses hope, creativity...etc. There are plenty of atheist societies that are thriving.
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Dec 6 2023 10:36am
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 5 2023 09:21pm)
But some of the world's greatest minds are atheists. Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, to name a few. The Greeks and Romans had very advanced cultures for their time, and they were not religious (aside from their pantheons of gods, which were more mythology than true religion). In fact, the spread of Christianity in Europe coincided with the Dark Ages and it was the most intellectually stunted period in the history of Europe.

I know that you are Christian and I am not gonna be one of those rude people who say to the face of a Christian that his religion is fake, but I really think you are a bit biased when you say that atheism represses hope, creativity...etc. There are plenty of atheist societies that are thriving.


The Romans were extremely religious. They were well known for reciting very in-depth prayers before battle, calling upon favour from the Pantheon. Their entire lives revolved around their religion, which included human sacrifice (sparingly) along with other less sacrifices such as the burning of incense. Their devotion to their religion exceeds even that of the most fanatical Christian sects.

There are some smart atheists, but Dawkins and Hawking for example are complete intellectual lightweights compared to the titans who forged the groundwork of natural science. They are not even close to being among the world's greatest minds, in fact they are not even 95th percentile. Isaac Newton, Lord Rayleigh, etc. etc. etc. all these people were very religious.

I'm not biased at all, atheism by definition is the lack of faith, lack of hope, the repression of the human spirit. Recent historical evidence very clearly supports this.

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Dec 6 2023 07:29pm
Quote (El1te @ Dec 6 2023 08:36am)

There are some smart atheists, but Dawkins and Hawking for example are complete intellectual lightweights compared to the titans who forged the groundwork of natural science. They are not even close to being among the world's greatest minds, in fact they are not even 95th percentile. Isaac Newton, Lord Rayleigh, etc. etc. etc. all these people were very religious.


So who in your opinion were the top minds of the highest order?
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Dec 6 2023 08:04pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 6 2023 05:29pm)
So who in your opinion were the top minds of the highest order?


Top minds of world history in my view include St. Augustine, St. Aquinas, Emperor Aurelius, Arminius, Calvin, Caesar, Caesar Augustus, Maxwell, Einstein, Lord Rayleigh, Lavoissier, Newton, Leibniz, Euler, Planck, Lord Kelvin. Lots and lots of other people on this level that Dawkins and Hawking don't even come close to in terms of intellectual excellency

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Dec 8 2023 03:55pm
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 23 2023 03:16am)
Seriously? Is that your answer? You show me the bible again and show a text as evidence for its contains? You basically always try to prove the bible with the bible, dude :lol: :wallbash:


creationist, fine tuning argument (example of using science to make arguments)

antitheist, multiverse argument (example of pulling imaginary ideas right out the azz to make arguments)
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#4828
Dec 8 2023 07:05pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 6 2023 05:29pm)
So who in your opinion were the top minds of the highest order?


been thinking bout this question. i find it curious?

Quote (El1te @ Dec 6 2023 06:04pm)
Top minds of world history in my view include St. Augustine, St. Aquinas, Emperor Aurelius, Arminius, Calvin, Caesar, Caesar Augustus, Maxwell, Einstein, Lord Rayleigh, Lavoissier, Newton, Leibniz, Euler, Planck, Lord Kelvin. Lots and lots of other people on this level that Dawkins and Hawking don't even come close to in terms of intellectual excellency


what causes you to decide on those people?
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Dec 8 2023 08:50pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 8 2023 05:05pm)
been thinking bout this question. i find it curious?



what causes you to decide on those people?


Nothing in particular, those are just people that came to the top of my head. There's of course also Socrates, Archimedes, Plato, etc. along with plenty of postmodern people like Thomas Sowell
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Dec 9 2023 12:11am
Quote (El1te @ Dec 8 2023 06:50pm)
Nothing in particular, those are just people that came to the top of my head. There's of course also Socrates, Archimedes, Plato, etc. along with plenty of postmodern people like Thomas Sowell


wasnt really a specific question. curious how you decide who to put on the list no matter who that who is
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