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Apr 15 2023 05:49am
Quote (IceMage @ 15 Apr 2023 13:25)
Putin tried to take Ukraine because he is invested in the idea of a historic Russian empire, which dates back hundreds of years and includes Ukraine. It's not about strategy. It's not about re-establishing the Soviet Union.


Yes, and in a more simple way: he's a mafia boss for russian elite and mafia bosses must do war to gain authority and to keep their seat. Considering the info he has on everyone in his circle he's a dead man if defeated (imho)
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Apr 15 2023 06:06am
Quote (HeLiCaL @ 15 Apr 2023 08:03)
https://i.imgur.com/7KwdCOm.jpg


From the same author:



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Apr 15 2023 06:31am
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Apr 14 2023 05:32pm)
Nice :rofl:


I was worried my references might be too high brow these days, not sure they still teach edwin arlington robinson in schools when they're too busy doing active shooter drills and white guilt sessions
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#4814
Apr 15 2023 07:09am
Quote (IceMage @ Apr 15 2023 01:19pm)
You're posting an image of Finland, the country known in modern history as avoiding taking a side in great power conflict, joining NATO. This happened because Putin decided to unjustly invade his neighbor.

The Secretary-General of NATO said:



I don't understand the supposed argument you are making. If Putin invaded because he was worried about NATO creeping closer(which is a bullshit talking point that ignores Putin's actual rationale for trying to take Ukraine), the result is more NATO members on his border.

That said, Ukraine was not close to NATO membership, they were not even part of the EU. You're just spinning a genocidal war.


So I was right, you are not capable of understanding what I posted, not only the date matters but what Stoltenberg said namely "Ukraine will become a member of our alliance".

We were NOT talking about Finland but now that you tried to move the conversation that way, Finland becoming a NATO member actually makes sense, strong EU country, nice GDP, nice military budget and so on.

Now compare that to Ukraine, it's a corrupt shit hole, trash GDP, old trash infrastructure, high crime rate and so on. The only interest for NATO is it's geographical location ;)
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Apr 15 2023 07:11am
Quote (IceMage @ Apr 15 2023 01:25pm)
Putin tried to take Ukraine because he is invested in the idea of a historic Russian empire, which dates back hundreds of years and includes Ukraine. It's not about strategy. It's not about re-establishing the Soviet Union.


Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 15 2023 01:49pm)
Yes, and in a more simple way: he's a mafia boss for russian elite and mafia bosses must do war to gain authority and to keep their seat. Considering the info he has on everyone in his circle he's a dead man if defeated (imho)


CNN told you that rubbish?
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#4816
Apr 15 2023 07:57am
Quote (Djunior @ 15 Apr 2023 15:11)
CNN told you that rubbish?


Criminal business is totally integrated into the russian oligarchical hierarchy, which is ruled by Putin.
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Apr 15 2023 08:14am
Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 15 2023 09:31am)
I was worried my references might be too high brow these days, not sure they still teach edwin arlington robinson in schools when they're too busy doing active shooter drills and white guilt sessions


From Canada so no active shooter drills, we are starting to get fat here though so hopefully they start those up, might be some decent exercise at least
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#4818
Apr 15 2023 08:27am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 15 2023 03:57pm)
Criminal business is totally integrated into the russian oligarchical hierarchy, which is ruled by Putin.


Read up about systemic corruption in Ukraine and your hero Zelensky embezzling 400M of war funds provided by US tax payers
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Apr 15 2023 08:55am
Quote (Djunior @ 15 Apr 2023 16:27)
Read up about systemic corruption in Ukraine and your hero Zelensky embezzling 400M of war funds provided by US tax payers


Criminal business is totally integrated into the russian oligarchical hierarchy, which is ruled by Putin.
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Apr 15 2023 12:10pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 15 2023 04:55pm)
Criminal business is totally integrated into the russian oligarchical hierarchy, which is ruled by Putin.


Ukraine =/= Russia but yes both countries are corrupt. I agree with that statement, however YOU are constantly deflecting / denying that Ukraine is corrupt.

But don't worry, the world knows the truth. Jan 2023: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/23/ukraine-deputy-minister-sacked-for-alleged-theft-of-400000

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Ukraine’s deputy infrastructure minister, Vasyl Lozinskyi, has been detained and dismissed from his post for allegedly stealing $400,000 (£320,000) intended for purchasing aid, including generators, according to Ukraine’s state anti-corruption detectives and prosecutors.


And now Seymour Hersh's report. Did you even read it? https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/trading-with-the-enemy?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1377040&post_id=114123549&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
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