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Oct 7 2021 06:24pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 7 Oct 2021 19:57)
The proper comparison for the U.S. in terms of population as well as geographic and economic diversity is Europe in its entirety, not a single European country. And in that case, the variation in cost of living is even more extreme in Europe. A single year of rent for an apartment in inner London or the good districts of Paris buys you the same apartment in Plovdiv, Bulgaria or similar places.

Heck, Germany's current economic model relies in no small part on exploiting droves of Eastern European workers with starvation wages which only add up for them because the rest of their family lives in Poland/Romania/Bulgaria.

fair enough, it is more of an ample comparison due to the EU (brexit not withstanding) allowing for free movement and enterprise across national borders similar to interstate commerce in the USA.

that said the sentiment is the same, and i wonder how things will change when upwardly mobile people that now live/work in London/Paris/Copenhagen/Oslo/Barcelona etc. move their primary locations to Belgrade/Budapest/Gdansk etc. due to remote working

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fair enough, it is more of an ample comparison due to the EU (brexit not withstanding) allowing for free movement and enterprise across national borders similar to interstate commerce in the USA.

that said the sentiment is the same, and i wonder how things will change when upwardly mobile people that now live/work in London/Paris/Copenhagen/Oslo/Barcelona etc. move their primary locations to Belgrade/Budapest/Gdansk etc. due to remote working


I don't think fully remote working will become the norm. Imho, most jobs will still require you to meet with your team in person at least once a week or so, meaning that employees can move away from the cities and spread out across the wider suburbs and exurbs, but not too far away either.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 7 Oct 2021 20:42)
I don't think fully remote working will become the norm. Imho, most jobs will still require you to meet with your team in person at least once a week or so, meaning that employees can move away from the cities and spread out across the wider suburbs and exurbs, but not too far away either.

suppose so, and that’s probably a good balance. but plenty of firms may not. travel to office for major meetings and nothing else. of course mileage will vary but yes further reaching suburban and rural areas will see significant upticks in demand

firms will find it a tough sell to issue demands on employees who have performed at top tier levels during pandemic from their homes. thats untold hours and costs of commuting saved and likely redirected into more labor
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Quote (excellence @ Oct 8 2021 01:36am)
yeah it really is unique to the US being so large and different across states. Sure you have London vs Birmingham or Berlin vs Dresden or whatever. But it is very extreme in the US.

where I primarily live the median US salary makes you poor as a single person unless you have 2 roommates in a tiny apartment (flat) sharing 1-2 bathroom(s) . where my secondary location is the median would be quite comfortable even with a small family in a townhouse.

what will be interesting is how remote working changes prices and income levels in the next 5 years. if i were so inclined i’d be tempted to move to some small town in south dakota or nebraska or some small beach town in new hampshire and pay next to nothing in rent for a 2 bedroom 2 bath, and sock away my income due to working remote fully now.


do it ^_^

get away from the big cities, especially the blue ones

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 8 2021 01:57am)
The proper comparison for the U.S. in terms of population as well as geographic and economic diversity is Europe in its entirety, not a single European country. And in that case, the variation in cost of living is even more extreme in Europe. A single year of rent for an apartment in inner London or the good districts of Paris buys you the same apartment in Plovdiv, Bulgaria or similar places.

Heck, Germany's current economic model relies in no small part on exploiting droves of Eastern European workers with starvation wages which only add up for them because the rest of their family lives in Poland/Romania/Bulgaria.


germany in general is a low wage exploitation country, it goes up all the way to doctors and engineers
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Jesus was actually black and a homosexual.
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Jesus was actually black and a homosexual.



I mean ur half right
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Quote (PapaTeemo @ 7 Oct 2021 23:01)
Jesus was actually black and a homosexual.


this guy can bowl a 400
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Oct 7 2021 09:28pm
I actually live in LA. you can rent a room for $700. A studio for $1200. A one bedroom for $1600. But really the key is living with someone. That cuts all rent in half. You can rent a nice 2 bed for $2000. If yiu make $100k per year in cali you arent living out of your car lol.
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Quote (Kuggergug @ Oct 7 2021 10:28pm)
I actually live in LA. you can rent a room for $700. A studio for $1200. A one bedroom for $1600. But really the key is living with someone. That cuts all rent in half. You can rent a nice 2 bed for $2000. If yiu make $100k per year in cali you arent living out of your car lol.


My understanding is if you want to live in a city on the coast it's ridiculous like that. Everywehre else it's not as ridiculous.

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Quote (Kuggergug @ Oct 7 2021 08:28pm)
I actually live in LA. you can rent a room for $700. A studio for $1200. A one bedroom for $1600. But really the key is living with someone. That cuts all rent in half. You can rent a nice 2 bed for $2000. If yiu make $100k per year in cali you arent living out of your car lol.


No one wants to live with Mexicans and Blacks.
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