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Jun 28 2020 03:34pm
Quote (Giannis @ Jun 28 2020 05:14pm)
why do windmills suck, you make a statement and then provide no proof but you're engaging in an honest discussion?


In order to maintain them you need to expend a bunch of CO2 through helicopters, replacing blades, etc. The bird graveyard that Trump said is 100% correct. Overall though, the cost in $ per MWH is just not feasible for real life.

TL;DR Nuclear is better

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Jun 28 2020 03:39pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 28 2020 04:34pm)
In order to maintain them you need to expend a bunch of CO2 through helicopters, replacing blades, etc. The bird graveyard that Trump said is 100% correct. Overall though, the cost in $ per MWH is just not feasible for real life.

TL;DR Nuclear is better



Source? $/MWH wind turbines have a rate of return of over 20 times the principal investment

Are venture capitalists just ignorant? Is that why they continue to funnel money into these projects because the energy production is inefficient?

Btw Trump advocates for coal

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Jun 28 2020 03:48pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 28 2020 04:34pm)
In order to maintain them you need to expend a bunch of CO2 through helicopters, replacing blades, etc. The bird graveyard that Trump said is 100% correct. Overall though, the cost in $ per MWH is just not feasible for real life.

TL;DR Nuclear is better


As long as the CO2 from building and maintenance is less than the CO2 saved from not burning coal for the equivalent amount of energy then they are still an improvement, and will be an even greater improvement as more of the infrastructure to make them changes over to use them as a source of energy instead of fossil fuels.

Nuclear is indeed better, but all sources have their place in some way or another. No single energy source is a silver bullet to fixing climate change or providing energy.
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Jun 28 2020 04:05pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 28 2020 11:34am)
President Donald Trump on Sunday morning widely shared a video he said is from the Villages, a retirement community in Florida, in which a man driving a golf cart with Trump campaign posters is seen chanting "white power."
The President retweeted the video that showed the community's Trump supporters and anti-Trump protesters arguing with one another. The President thanked the "great people" shown in the video.



Still in denial? how many cases of dog whistles or just blatant support of racism are you people willing to accept?


It doesn't matter to Trump supporters. Trump does nothing wrong, ever.

It would be absolutely WILD to see Obama have done the same things, and to see the responses from resident Trump supporters.
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Jun 28 2020 05:32pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 28 2020 05:48pm)
ANo single energy source is a silver bullet to fixing climate change or providing energy.


Why?
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Jun 28 2020 05:41pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 28 2020 06:32pm)
Why?


because they have advantages and disadvantages that means they aren't universally good for every situaiton.

For instance, nuclear can provide a good baseline, but they are very hard to bring away from that baseline (it takes hours to change the output of a nuclear facility, they can't ramp very quickly), so you either 1) waste a ton of energy by having the nuclear plant constantly producing at the level of peak demand. or 2) supplement with other sources and use nuclear as a baseline, like solar to augment the system during the day when the energy demand is at its highest.

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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 28 2020 06:32pm)
Why?


Because you never put all your eggs in one basket. Pretty simple concept.

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Jun 28 2020 06:01pm
Quote (Tyrantus @ Jun 28 2020 07:41pm)
Because you never put all your eggs in one basket. Pretty simple concept.




What about on Easter? Huh?
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Jun 28 2020 07:13pm
Quote (Tyrantus @ Jun 28 2020 07:41pm)
Because you never put all your eggs in one basket. Pretty simple concept.


What a meaningless platitude. What do you do for a living? Flip burgers?
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Jun 28 2020 09:13pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 28 2020 03:05pm)
It doesn't matter to Trump supporters. Trump does nothing wrong, ever.

It would be absolutely WILD to see Obama have done the same things, and to see the responses from resident Trump supporters.


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