Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 23 2023 10:03am)
Nonono. What you describe are all 1st degree eye witness reports. Those are surely important in many cases, especially crime investigation cases.
Those people PERSONALLY tell what they saw - and if what they saw is significant, they have to testify and they will get interviewed/interrogated.
What they say will be thoroughly investigated and checked.
The eye witness accounts we talk about here are written down. Probably by someone else and bit the witness. And even if not, those are impossible to investigate. Also on top of that, those are over a thousand years old. No one knows how much those were altered over the centuries. How is this evidence for anything?
One if my best buddies is a police officer and he once told me that cold cases are the worst when they are made public after a while when the police doesnt know how to continue the investigation. The moment you share information about the case with the public, countless eye witness reports come in. They call in, come to the office, write e-mails, whatever. Close to 100% of those are absolutely worthless. Sometimes because the information is just irrelevant, but mostly because what they think they saw is just wrong. They misinterpret what they think they saw. Those people arent even lying, they are convinced of whatever they think they witnessed. People have seen this or that, describe this or that person, saw a specific car and so on. Its a dead end, get proven to be wrong almost all the time and causes nothing but work. They are bot to blame, the human mind is tricked very easily. Sometimes you see what you wanna see, sometimes you see what you fear to see. Thats how it is. Thats reality.
Let's take what we do know. There was always a very large crowd following Jesus around. This means there is no shortage of eyewitnesses. Here is an example.
Luke 5:17-26
Jesus Forgives and Heals a Paralyzed Man
17 One day Jesus was teaching, and Pharisees and teachers of the law were sitting there. They had come from every village of Galilee and from Judea and Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was with Jesus to heal the sick. 18 Some men came carrying a paralyzed man on a mat and tried to take him into the house to lay him before Jesus. 19
When they could not find a way to do this because of the crowd, they went up on the roof and lowered him on his mat through the tiles into the
middle of the crowd, right in front of Jesus.
20 When Jesus saw their faith, he said, “Friend, your sins are forgiven.”
21 The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, “Who is this fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone?”
22 Jesus knew what they were thinking and asked, “Why are you thinking these things in your hearts? 23 Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’? 24 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the paralyzed man, “I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home.” 25
Immediately he stood up in front of them, took what he had been lying on and went home praising God. 26
Everyone was amazed and gave praise to God. They were filled with awe and said, “We have seen remarkable things today.”What this means is that there is no shortage of people whom Luke could have interviewed. Everyone would have given their own version and the final version would have made it into his report. One person might have mentioned something that nobody else has but Luke could have asked and found that to be false.
These are not just eyewitness accounts of 1-3 people but an entire crowd worth of testimonies. Back then they didn't have cell phones or e-mails. This is all 100% interviewed. I don't see the problem with eyewitness accounts when there was always an entire crowd worth of people to interview.
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