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May 6 2022 09:51am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 6 2022 08:49am)
camp david is a camp, if i go out to the woods with a tent i camp.

why is the word camp important, and why is it bad?


I didn't say it was important. I was just commenting on what I saw. You seem to imply that a camp is no longer a camp if it has nice amenities. I feel this to not be true.

This isn't important anyway.
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May 6 2022 10:57am
Quote (fender @ May 6 2022 02:01am)
ah yes, the camboy non-argument. classic. just tell me then, because context strongly suggests you're in favour of anti-abortion policy.


Philosophically, I believe that the pregnancy deserves to be protected at all stages. However, I understand that this is an unrealistic scenario and it's not something I actively fight for. I'm 100% in the camp of reducing the number of abortions via counseling, subsidized birth control, proper sex education, etc. One day, when we have an artificial uterus, we can finally put this issue behind us. Until then, I'm shit out of luck because America isn't ready to do the right thing.
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May 6 2022 11:04am
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Philosophically, I believe that the pregnancy deserves to be protected at all stages. However, I understand that this is an unrealistic scenario and it's not something I actively fight for. I'm 100% in the camp of reducing the number of abortions via counseling, subsidized birth control, proper sex education, etc. One day, when we have an artificial uterus, we can finally put this issue behind us. Until then, I'm shit out of luck because America isn't ready to do the right thing.


we just need a cool new PSA campaign to get boys to snip snip themselves at age 16, then reverse it once you're married. STIs would probably explode due to no condoms but at least kids wouldnt get born. health insurance companies may even like it, 1 time snip beats BC scripts every month. then we can finally remove women from the poison that is BC.
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May 6 2022 11:36am
Quote (thundercock @ 6 May 2022 11:57)
Philosophically, I believe that the pregnancy deserves to be protected at all stages. However, I understand that this is an unrealistic scenario and it's not something I actively fight for. I'm 100% in the camp of reducing the number of abortions via counseling, subsidized birth control, proper sex education, etc. One day, when we have an artificial uterus, we can finally put this issue behind us. Until then, I'm shit out of luck because America isn't ready to do the right thing.

pretty succinct take here. as snipa said pro choice but not exactly a champion of abortion

Quote (thesnipa @ 6 May 2022 12:04)
we just need a cool new PSA campaign to get boys to snip snip themselves at age 16, then reverse it once you're married. STIs would probably explode due to no condoms but at least kids wouldnt get born. health insurance companies may even like it, 1 time snip beats BC scripts every month. then we can finally remove women from the poison that is BC.



yeah for sure. BC does a havoc on a lot of women’s bodies
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May 6 2022 11:37am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 6 2022 10:04am)
we just need a cool new PSA campaign to get boys to snip snip themselves at age 16, then reverse it once you're married. STIs would probably explode due to no condoms but at least kids wouldnt get born. health insurance companies may even like it, 1 time snip beats BC scripts every month. then we can finally remove women from the poison that is BC.


I'd argue that we make IUD insertions free. They are REALLY effective and are popular everywhere else in the world.
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May 6 2022 11:40am
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I'd argue that we make IUD insertions free. They are REALLY effective and are popular everywhere else in the world.


pass, i know a guy who had a penile injury because of a malfunction. it might be INSANELY rare but if my wife had one i'd never be able to enjoy sex again due to the stress of wondering if i'm about to get stabbed.
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May 6 2022 02:11pm
Quote (thundercock @ 6 May 2022 18:57)
Philosophically, I believe that the pregnancy deserves to be protected at all stages. However, I understand that this is an unrealistic scenario and it's not something I actively fight for. I'm 100% in the camp of reducing the number of abortions via counseling, subsidized birth control, proper sex education, etc. One day, when we have an artificial uterus, we can finally put this issue behind us. Until then, I'm shit out of luck because America isn't ready to do the right thing.


"the pregnancy deserves to be protected"? do you mean pregnant women who want to have a baby need to be protected by that? then everyone agrees with you. do you mean pregnant women who don't want to have a baby should be forced to have it? then say so.
i am also in the camp of reducing the need for abortions, ironically it's mostly "pro life" republican lawmakers who oppose those measures, as i am sure you know. what do you mean when you say YOU're "shit out of luck"?

please be specific: are you in favour of the scotus overturning roe v. wade or not? are you in favour of red states introducing draconian laws to punish women seeking abortion - even rape and incest victims - or not? given all the information you have, knowing how it will impact different communities... i'm talking real world, not some imaginary future scenario.
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May 6 2022 02:12pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 6 2022 11:57am)
Philosophically, I believe that the pregnancy deserves to be protected at all stages. However, I understand that this is an unrealistic scenario and it's not something I actively fight for. I'm 100% in the camp of reducing the number of abortions via counseling, subsidized birth control, proper sex education, etc. One day, when we have an artificial uterus, we can finally put this issue behind us. Until then, I'm shit out of luck because America isn't ready to do the right thing.


What is your philosophical ground for that position?
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May 6 2022 02:26pm
Jane Roe from Roe vs Wade made a stunning deathbed confession
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CPwmq8LL2UFv/

we as a people do things we regret, perhaps your proof of fallen condition, its still not to late

John 1:29
King James Version

29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

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May 6 2022 02:50pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 7 2022 02:37am)
I'd argue that we make IUD insertions free. They are REALLY effective and are popular everywhere else in the world.


All forms of birth control should be free.
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