Why does Russia always do land grabs under a democratic president ?

Invaded Afghanistan under Carter
Took over Crimea under Obama
Now he’s invading the rest of Ukraine under Biden

I guess he thinks they’re weak

The US Dollar is hardly worth the paper it's printed on. It's a scam, like all fiat currencies designed to a) keep the world in debt to the international banking cartels and b ) designed to be infinitely printed so it can be used to fund countless wars throughout the world by the military industrial complex.

When the USG pays some mercenaries to fight somewhere, like in Syria, they use freshly printed dollars to hand to them straight off the printing press. Needless to say this gives the US a lot of power to start wars when they can pay anyone to fight any time, any where.

When hyper-inflation hits (already happening to a degree) the US will face a major economic crisis, and the result will be the rise of a new financial order - a crypto based one.

This post was edited by chopstickz777 on Feb 22 2022 10:23am

So the Ukronazi terrorists managed to murder 3 civilians with a roadside bomb while Putin was making his announcements yesterday:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1496000679923621888

Journalists trying to cover the incident came under shelling fire and had to immediately retreat from the area.

Hah - but Ukraine are just innocent little fairies that never deliberately murder people for no reason. Putin is not justified in sending peacekeepers even if Ukraine kills 1 million! REEEEE!

This post was edited by chopstickz777 on Feb 22 2022 10:33am

And what's the counterargument to it?
The US official line is that Euromaidan was the 'good' kind of CIA backed coup, that Yanukovych was corrupt and America is helping anti-corruption in Ukraine, that it was a 'popular uprising' that 'restored democracy'. When Joe Biden inserted himself and his son into micromanaging that kleptocracy, it drew all kinds of attention onto the corrupt US oligarchy profiteering off the coup. If it hadn't been infected with a partisan lightning rod, western oligarchs could have at least maintained a pretense of legitimacy while emulating their Russian predecessors. Instead we got to peek behind that curtain and got to see what total bullshit the US propaganda machine was spewing.
I think pretending that Ukraine wasn't overthrown in 2014 and Russia has no legitimate grievance here and that Ukraine is a legitimate democracy, is like pretending that the Jupiter Missiles in Turkey never existed. The world makes a lot more sense when we acknowledge muhbothsides

I certainly don't see any geopolitical righteousness for the US inserting itself into Russia's backyard as mere opportunism after Syria, unwilling to defend Ukrainian interests against Russian aggression, permitting the economic circumvallation via Nord Stream II and then throwing a hissy fit when Russia formally occupies the territory they've been informally occupying most of a decade. Its not like we're some benevolent world police intervening to stop a genocide or serve our own self-interests of national security by blowing up some hajjis with chubby aluminum tubing. Our pretense here is that we're defending a democracy in a country who's democratically elected president we overthrew in a coup a few years ago, who's oligarchs we replaced with our own oligarchs, with borders that haven't held any meaning for a decade.



At the end of the day, this is just the ongoing result of sloppy foreign policy by Barack Obama who did the dead opposite of what the Obama Doctrine promised on paper. Libya, Yemen, Syria, Ukraine, the man knew how to pick them

This post was edited by Goomshill on Feb 22 2022 10:47am

*surprised face*

"why are people being killed after I invaded their country???"^^^

So you just want to ignore the obvious explanation to keep your head buried in the sand. Got it.

Trump being less warmonger-y is "Russian propaganda." I must say, interesting take - haven't heard that one before!



HAHAHHA. Kenya is just stooping as low to the ground as possible to gain more favor as a vassal. Won't work, the US considers them to be just as disposable as any other "ally" aka vassal.

The UN is a clownshow where reality is twisted around by everyone on the side of the US while the few that try to tell the truth about what is happening are just blatantly ignored.

Another reason why this world is decaying at a truly unprecedented rate - nobody wants to actually listen to reason or to eachother.

So you support the murder of 3 civilians that were just driving down the road in their car by a bunch of fascists placing roadside bombs on civilian roads like they're fuckin' Iraqi insurgents?

Hah! Why am I not surprised.

There is no level too low for the "everything is always russia's fault-ers" in this thread to stoop too.

Trying out your new Jump to Conclusions mat™?

Ironic coming from the only person here supporting a military invasion.

No, it's retarded because Kenya, like everyone else just ignores the fact that the Ukrainian army massacred thousands of civilians, is still killing civilians to this day, is responsible for tearing up and destroying the Minsk agreement, and it ignores the fact that Russia was forced to act due to an imminent Ukrainian army offensive against DPR territory, which they all still pretend wasn't obvious and that Ukraine had no plans for such an offensive. It ignores the fact that Ukraine has absolutely no right to rule over an area where they have just spent 8 years terrorizing, murdering and brutalizing the people living there.

In other words, just your typical moral high-horse speech based on a distorted version of reality that is rooted in a lack of understanding of the Ukrainian crisis. Quite the norm for the United Nations really.

If just *one* country besides Russia or Syria would recognize Ukraine's massacres instead of ignore them, I would have more respect for the UN. Still hasn't happened yet.