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Oct 1 2020 04:07pm
We already knew any pretense of neutrality was a sham

It wasn't the first time a debate moderator openly debated the republican candidate and spread fake news. (Wallace, Candy Crowley)

The establishment commission excludes other parties from the debate entirely by requiring them to get 15% in polls they aren't even included in

But this is getting ridiculous

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“I came to school in Washington, D.C., went to American University and had a couple of internships. I worked for Joe Biden, Senator from Delaware at the time, as an intern, so I had my first chance to really see politics up close in Washington, D.C.,” Scully said in 2011, Marie Claire reported.

Scully was all smiles when he attended a party at Biden’s house in 2016:




https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/01/second-presidential-debate-moderator-steve-scully-interned-joe-bidens-senate-office/


and they want to be able to cut the mics in this debate.
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Who would you get?


Any of the billions of people who weren't Biden interns would be a good start.

Rogan was an interesting suggestion I would be on board with.

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Any of the billions of people who weren't Biden interns.

Rogan was an interesting suggestion I would be on board with.


next up Breitbart is fake news!!!
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 1 2020 03:08pm)
Any of the billions of people who weren't Biden interns would be a good start.

Rogan was an interesting suggestion I would be on board with.

Rogan said he was voting for Trump, how is that unbiased? Joe Rogan also doesn't seem to have a good grasp of the issues. In all seriousness, have you ever listened to this dude? Trump is going to walk all over him because he lets every single CSPAN caller walk over him. Trump could say that he fucked Jill Biden and Scully would say, "Alright then."
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Rogan said he was voting for Trump, how is that unbiased? Joe Rogan also doesn't seem to have a good grasp of the issues. In all seriousness, have you ever listened to this dude? Trump is going to walk all over him because he lets every single CSPAN caller walk over him. Trump could say that he fucked Jill Biden and Scully would say, "Alright then."


I'm not claiming he isn't biased.
Everyone has their personal opinions and biases.
Not everyone was a biden intern who attended his house parties and publicly bragged that you gotta love him.

From what I understand Rogan once mused he'd rather vote for Trump than Biden because of his cognitive difficulties.
He also praised breadline Bernie and said he would probably vote for him.
He isn't a hyperpartisan.

He's less biased and more open-minded than the partisan biden intern and has a track record of facilitating conversations and trying to dig into issues rather than setting up soundbite gotcha questions and censorship along partisan lines.
He is a good candidate to reveal to people where the nominees actually stand and facilitate a productive debate.

It remains obvious the Biden intern clearly isn't the least biased person I could find.

Another good candidate to moderate the debates is Gene Epstein who moderates the Soho Forum debates in NYC.

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Oct 1 2020 04:42pm
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Who would you get?


An experienced, respected and centrist host from another English-speaking country, say Canada, Australia or the UK. Perhaps even South Africa. Someone who doesnt have a stake in the election.

With any American journalist or talkshow host, you will always find some kind of partisanship, personal self-interest or intense connection to the candidates in their CV.
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 1 2020 03:32pm)
I'm not claiming he isn't biased.
Everyone has their personal opinions and biases.
Not everyone was a biden intern who attended his house parties and publicly bragged that you gotta love him.

From what I understand Rogan once mused he'd rather vote for Trump than Biden because of his cognitive difficulties.
He also praised breadline Bernie and said he would probably vote for him.
He isn't a hyperpartisan.

He's less biased and more open-minded than the partisan biden intern and has a track record of facilitating conversations and trying to dig into issues rather than setting up soundbite gotcha questions and censorship along partisan lines.
He is a good candidate to reveal to people where the nominees actually stand and facilitate a productive debate.

It remains obvious the Biden intern clearly isn't the least biased person I could find.

Another good candidate to moderate the debates is Gene Epstein who moderates the Soho Forum debates in NYC.


Are you claiming that Scully is incapable of being fair due to his career and friendship with someone? I guess I don't see it based on the content that he does. He seems incredibly boring and I don't think he'd press either candidate. I hope I'm wrong because pressing a candidate is pretty important.

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An experienced, respected and centrist host from another English-speaking country, say Canada, Australia or the UK. Perhaps even South Africa. Someone who doesnt have a stake in the election.

With any American journalist or talkshow host, you will always find some kind of partisanship, personal self-interest or intense connection to the candidates in their CV.


I mean, I think this would be fine but it's a bit hysterical. The whole point of being a professional is that you're capable of doing your job without being distracted by your biases. Like, I think Bill O'Reilly is capable of being professional (he interviewed Obama, Bush, etc.) but Hannity is incapable.
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Are you claiming that Scully is incapable of being fair due to his career and friendship with someone? I guess I don't see it based on the content that he does. He seems incredibly boring and I don't think he'd press either candidate. I hope I'm wrong because pressing a candidate is pretty important.


I mean, I think this would be fine but it's a bit hysterical. The whole point of being a professional is that you're capable of doing your job without being distracted by your biases. Like, I think Bill O'Reilly is capable of being professional (he interviewed Obama, Bush, etc.) but Hannity is incapable.


I am claiming your claim that he is the least biased person I could find is clearly ridiculous and wrong.
I am also claiming he is in fact very biased and it calls into question and undermines the integrity and fairness of debates that have already had severe bias issues.

The fact that they chose a Biden intern to moderate a debate between Biden and the Republican president is absurd.

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Quote (thundercock @ 1 Oct 2020 18:52)
Are you claiming that Scully is incapable of being fair due to his career and friendship with someone? I guess I don't see it based on the content that he does. He seems incredibly boring and I don't think he'd press either candidate. I hope I'm wrong because pressing a candidate is pretty important.



I mean, I think this would be fine but it's a bit hysterical. The whole point of being a professional is that you're capable of doing your job without being distracted by your biases. Like, I think Bill O'Reilly is capable of being professional (he interviewed Obama, Bush, etc.) but Hannity is incapable.

id actually prefer a debate setup with hannity/maddow as the moderators and the final moderator is some random american we find from a battleground state. or someone who is truly neutral. like me!! a supporter of our esteemed recent Presidents, Obama and Trump ;)

Trump said he wanted Hoda as a moderator, she’d be fantastic imo

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id actually prefer a debate setup with hannity/maddow as the moderators and the final moderator is some random american we find from a battleground state. or someone who is truly neutral. like me!! a supporter of our esteemed recent Presidents, Obama and Trump ;)


Solid idea.
Multiple sides getting to ask the candidates tough questions is an interesting balance.
But i imagine they would still interrupt and cause chaos.

However, the neutral should be someone who wants all presidents jailed for war crimes

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