Quote (Ghot @ Mar 7 2020 11:59am)

Well, you have to admit, that 90% of the major port states are seriously Democratic.

Quote (Goomshill @ 7 Mar 2020 23:45)

So I've had this minor lingering bit of doubt in my mind for a few months now, ever since the first word of this Coronavirus stuff was out
early january I was flying through the west coast and spent a lot of time in the seattle airport around all kinds of chinese people. A few days later I came down with a really nasty virus, couldn't really place it because the symptoms were somewhere between cold and flu, but had a fever of 103+ at its worst which is way too much to be a cold. Didn't think much of it at the time, it was before any news of Coronavirus. But I got better in a week or so- it was a long sickness for whatever it was, at least one day completely out of action- and don't think anyone I spend much time with got any bad symptoms of being sick. I figured it was just some flu so I self-quarantined from my elderly family members and missed out on our usual dinners so I wouldn't be contagious.
Even once the coronavirus scare started I still figured then, and now, that the odds I got it still have to be < 1%, that this is what I get for not having a flu shot. And even if in that remote chance it was the big bad virus, I was fully recovered and no longer a carrier by the time it was in the news.

but that lingering doubt still remains in the back of my head. What's the earliest cases in Wuhan? I'd have to compare the timeline

Quote (TrixR4Kidz187 @ 7 Mar 2020 23:04)

What if the wall was actually made to keep us in rather than immigrants out?🤔

Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 7 2020 05:45pm)

So I've had this minor lingering bit of doubt in my mind for a few months now, ever since the first word of this Coronavirus stuff was out
early january I was flying through the west coast and spent a lot of time in the seattle airport around all kinds of chinese people. A few days later I came down with a really nasty virus, couldn't really place it because the symptoms were somewhere between cold and flu, but had a fever of 103+ at its worst which is way too much to be a cold. Didn't think much of it at the time, it was before any news of Coronavirus. But I got better in a week or so- it was a long sickness for whatever it was, at least one day completely out of action- and don't think anyone I spend much time with got any bad symptoms of being sick. I figured it was just some flu so I self-quarantined from my elderly family members and missed out on our usual dinners so I wouldn't be contagious.
Even once the coronavirus scare started I still figured then, and now, that the odds I got it still have to be < 1%, that this is what I get for not having a flu shot. And even if in that remote chance it was the big bad virus, I was fully recovered and no longer a carrier by the time it was in the news.

but that lingering doubt still remains in the back of my head. What's the earliest cases in Wuhan? I'd have to compare the timeline

Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 7 2020 02:45pm)

So I've had this minor lingering bit of doubt in my mind for a few months now, ever since the first word of this Coronavirus stuff was out
early january I was flying through the west coast and spent a lot of time in the seattle airport around all kinds of chinese people. A few days later I came down with a really nasty virus, couldn't really place it because the symptoms were somewhere between cold and flu, but had a fever of 103+ at its worst which is way too much to be a cold. Didn't think much of it at the time, it was before any news of Coronavirus. But I got better in a week or so- it was a long sickness for whatever it was, at least one day completely out of action- and don't think anyone I spend much time with got any bad symptoms of being sick. I figured it was just some flu so I self-quarantined from my elderly family members and missed out on our usual dinners so I wouldn't be contagious.
Even once the coronavirus scare started I still figured then, and now, that the odds I got it still have to be < 1%, that this is what I get for not having a flu shot. And even if in that remote chance it was the big bad virus, I was fully recovered and no longer a carrier by the time it was in the news.

but that lingering doubt still remains in the back of my head. What's the earliest cases in Wuhan? I'd have to compare the timeline

Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 7 2020 05:45pm)

So I've had this minor lingering bit of doubt in my mind for a few months now, ever since the first word of this Coronavirus stuff was out
early january I was flying through the west coast and spent a lot of time in the seattle airport around all kinds of chinese people. A few days later I came down with a really nasty virus, couldn't really place it because the symptoms were somewhere between cold and flu, but had a fever of 103+ at its worst which is way too much to be a cold. Didn't think much of it at the time, it was before any news of Coronavirus. But I got better in a week or so- it was a long sickness for whatever it was, at least one day completely out of action- and don't think anyone I spend much time with got any bad symptoms of being sick. I figured it was just some flu so I self-quarantined from my elderly family members and missed out on our usual dinners so I wouldn't be contagious.
Even once the coronavirus scare started I still figured then, and now, that the odds I got it still have to be < 1%, that this is what I get for not having a flu shot. And even if in that remote chance it was the big bad virus, I was fully recovered and no longer a carrier by the time it was in the news.

but that lingering doubt still remains in the back of my head. What's the earliest cases in Wuhan? I'd have to compare the timeline

Quote (Ghot @ Mar 7 2020 10:49am)

My comparison is for comparing medical systems. Aka free and not free. The medical systems have nothing to do with "contracting" the disease.
The percentages of deaths on the other hand, are indicative of the quality of the medical systems in place.


/e Whether or not people in each country "contract" the CV, is more indicative of travel, quaratine and border policies.

Quote (Testiclese @ Mar 7 2020 07:22pm)

But here's the catch: you can't die from the virusunless you catch it first.

Quote (Ghot @ Mar 7 2020 04:37pm)

This is true, obviously. However, it doesn't preclude me from my deaths/population. Perhaps I'm making a different argument than you are assuming I'm making.



I'm arguing the claim by Saucy in post #443... and other similar sentiments by Saucy in this thread. I am disagreeing with Saucy's point that the virus will spread faster in the US.
Saucy has been bashing the US ever since the first reported case.

My rebuttal was.... the US is responding better than France. <---- which is where deaths/population comes in.



You on the other hand, are arguing death/infection. <---- this would not help me rebut Saucy's point.

Quote (thundercock @ Mar 7 2020 04:40pm)

This is the dumbest fucking argument I have ever seen. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Mar 7 2020 04:56pm)

I dont even know how he can attempt this debate as the US has done nothing but block travel