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Quote (Ghot @ 30 Mar 2019 03:22)
Oh, destroying 33,000 emails is... negligence?


Diversion whataboutism

“While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

People want to know.
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Quote (Ghot @ Mar 29 2019 07:22pm)
Oh, destroying 33,000 emails is... negligence?



Bush and Cheney destroyed millions. Why are you fixated on Clinton and not Bush?
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 29 2019 10:37pm)
Diversion whataboutism

“While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

People want to know.




YOU brought up Clinton. Claiming negligence. She got subpoenaed to give up the emails, then destroyed them.
That's not negligence, that's outright breaking the law.

But I guess you don't want anyone to think about that?
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YOU brought up Clinton. Claiming negligence. She got subpoenaed to give up the emails, then destroyed them.
That's not negligence, that's outright breaking the law.

But I guess you don't want anyone to think about that?


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Butt butt Clinton?
Seriously? Negligence is hardly comparable with the nature of mueller's investigation.
BTW how about kushner clearance? Etc.
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Tell me that's not YOU bringing up Clinton. :lol:

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What did the IG say about changing the wording from grossly negligent to extremely careless?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qKd9fDLku8

Rosenstein was a US attorney in 2016... he wasn't leading anything at DOJ.

you are correct, my apologies. although he has been bill clinton's lawyer, and worked on starr's investigation into hilary in prior years. he also has been an attorney in the circle of friends of the clinton's.
to be honest though, i am not positive he deserves as much criticism as he gets. he wrote a 3 page letter stressing concerns of comey's leadership ability. which trump contributes as 1 of a few main factors to comey's firing.
a lot on rosenstein has been rumour though from both sides. i regret picturing him as harshly as i have with my current base of knowledge of him.

lynch was the AG though.

ok, that video of schiff... didn't really state anything incriminating. it was a ton of speculation of incriminating things of the tower meeting.
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413

take a gander at his explanation and then read the emails. (not long, 5 short pages (emails start backwards)) it's a bit more incriminating than any left-wing media has given you so far, but at the same time shows it was a later thought and not the main meeting focus.
now remember that barr stated in his summary of "mueller's conclusion's", that there wasn't any russian collusion. that in the end, that info was offered but not accepted.
we can't prove "that info" offered was in "that" meeting without mueller report confirming it though. DTJ claims in his tweet that the lady never intended to release any info.


this bit is off-topic and i know i've said this before but... wikipedia is very "selective" with their sourcing when it comes to trump/clinton.
who needs a source when you can get the opinion of the opinion of the opinion of the opinion of the source?

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Diversion whataboutism

“While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

People want to know.

you are forgetting the "obstruction" part, as the collusion part was separately stated. again, realize that even trump's tweet's should be collected by the FBI as evidence.
it's going to be funny when that "obstruction" was just trump's "witch hunt" tweets.

this is what the summary said about "collusion"
"The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election."
"As noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that any U.S. person or Trump campaign official or associate conspired or knowingly coordinated with the IRA in its efforts"


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libertarian super hero randpaul doesn't want the results of a republican initiated investigation run by a republican released because he wants to have an investigation into the negro that occupied the white house previously along with maybe a blowjob and an ice cream cone
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/436293-rand-paul-blocks-resolution-calling-for-mueller-report-release
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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) blocked a resolution calling for special counsel Robert Mueller's report to be made public, arguing that Congress should also call for the release of communications and testimony from Obama-era officials.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), who is one of several Democratic senators running for president, tried to get unanimous consent for the Senate to pass the resolution, which cleared the House in a 420-0 vote earlier this month.

"We still have not seen the report. I have urged the Department of Justice to release the report, and the administration should not delay in producing the report to Congress," Klobuchar said.

But Paul objected because Klobuchar wouldn't agree to amend the nonbinding resolution to include provisions calling for the public release of communications between several Obama-era officials including former President Obama, former FBI Director James Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan.
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random sections i have use for later.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download
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Use of Personal Email

As we also describe in Chapter Twelve, we learned during the course of our review that Comey, Strzok, and Page used their personal email accounts to conduct FBI business.
We identified numerous instances in which Comey used a personal email account to conduct unclassified FBI business. We found that, given the absence of exigent circumstances and the frequency with which the use of personal email occurred, Comey’s use of a personal email account for unclassified FBI business to be inconsistent with Department policy.
We found that Strzok used his personal email accounts for official government business on several occasions, including forwarding an email from his FBI account to his personal email account about the proposed search warrant the Midyear team was seeking on the Weiner laptop. This email included a draft of the search warrant affidavit, which contained information from the Weiner investigation that appears to have been under seal at the time in the Southern District of New York and information obtained pursuant to a grand jury subpoena issued in the Eastern District of Virginia in the Midyear investigation. We refer to the FBI the issue of whether Strzok’s use of personal email accounts violated FBI and Department policies.
Finally, when questioned, Page also told us she used personal email for work-related matters at times. She stated that she and Strzok sometimes used these forums for work-related discussions due to the technical limitations of FBI-issued phones. Page left the FBI on May 4, 2018.

Improper Disclosure of Non-Public Information

As we also describe in Chapter Twelve, among the issues we reviewed were allegations that Department and FBI employees improperly disclosed non-public information regarding the Midyear investigation. Although FBI policy strictly limits the employees who are authorized to speak to the media, we found that this policy appeared to be widely ignored during the period we reviewed.
We identified numerous FBI employees, at all levels of the organization and with no official reason to be in contact with the media, who were nevertheless in frequent contact with reporters. Attached to this report as Attachments E and F are two link charts that reflect the volume of communications that we identified between FBI employees and media representatives in April/May and October 2016. We have profound concerns about the volume and extent of unauthorized media contacts by FBI personnel that we have uncovered during our review.
In addition, we identified instances where FBI employees improperly received benefits from reporters, including tickets to sporting events, golfing outings, drinks and meals, and admittance to nonpublic social events. We will separately report on those investigations as they are concluded, consistent with the Inspector General Act, other applicable federal statutes, and OIG policy.
The harm caused by leaks, fear of potential leaks, and a culture of unauthorized media contacts is illustrated in Chapters Ten and Eleven of our report, where we detail the fact that these issues influenced FBI officials who were advising Comey on consequential investigative decisions in October 2016. The FBI updated its media policy in November 2017, restating its strict guidelines concerning media contacts, and identifying who is required to obtain authority before engaging members of the media, and when and where to report media contact. We do not believe the problem is with the FBI’s policy, which we found to be clear and unambiguous. Rather, we concluded that these leaks highlight the need to change what appears to be a cultural attitude among many in the organization.


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Recommendations

Our report makes nine recommendations to the Department and the FBI to assist them in addressing the issues that we identified in this review:
•We recommend that the Department and the FBI consider developing guidance that identifies the risks associated with and alternatives to permitting a witness to attend a voluntary interview of another witness (including in the witness’s capacity as counsel).
•We recommend that the Department consider making explicit that, except in situations where the law requires or permits disclosure, an investigating agency cannot publicly announce its recommended charging decision prior to consulting with the Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General, U.S. Attorney, or his or her designee, and cannot proceed without the approval of one of these officials.
•We recommend that the Department and the FBI consider adopting a policy addressing the appropriateness of Department employees discussing the conduct of uncharged individuals in public statements.
•We recommend that the Department consider providing guidance to agents and prosecutors concerning the taking of overt investigative steps, indictments, public announcements, or other actions that could impact an election.
•We recommend that the Office of the Deputy Attorney General take steps to improve the retention and monitoring of text messages Department-wide.
•We recommend that the FBI add a warning banner to all of the FBI’s mobile phones and devices in order to further notify users that they have no reasonable expectation of privacy.
•We recommend that the FBI consider (a) assessing whether it has provided adequate training to employees about the proper use of text messages and instant messages, including any related discovery obligations, and (b) providing additional guidance about the allowable uses of FBI devices for any non-governmental purpose, including guidance about the use of FBI devices for political conversations.
•We recommend that the FBI consider whether (a) it is appropriately educating employees about both its media contact policy and the Department’s ethics rules pertaining to the acceptance of gifts, and (b) its disciplinary provisions and penalties are sufficient to deter such improper conduct.
•We recommend that Department ethics officials include the review of campaign donations for possible conflict issues when Department employees or their spouses run for public office.


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FBI agents and Department prosecutors told us that, thereafter,a large focus of the investigation was locating the remaining 31,830emails that made up the entire 62,320emails that Clinton’s attorneys had reportedly reviewed before producing her work-related emails to the State Department. Clinton’s attorneys did not produce those 31,830emails to the State Department because, they stated, they were personal in nature; instead, the attorneys instructed Paul Combetta of Platte River Networks (“PRN”)—the company that managed Clinton’s server—to remove the emails from their own laptops and modify the server’s email retention period so that emails older than 60 days would not be retained. In March 2015, Combetta removed the emails from Clinton’s server using BleachBit after realizing he had failed to implement the new email retention period several months earlier. The FBI team wanted to review these emails, if possible, to determine whether any were work-related or contained classified information, and to search for evidence of Clinton’s intent in using a private server.


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None of the emails, including those that were found to contain classified information, included a header or footer with classification markings. As we discuss further in Chapter Seven, this absence of clear classification markings played a significant role in the decision by the Midyear prosecutors to recommend to Attorney General Lynch in July 2016 that the investigation should be closed without prosecution. According to the LHM, the FBI, with the assistance of other USIC agencies, identified “81 email chains containing approximately 193 individual emails that were classified from the CONFIDENTIAL to TOP SECRET levels at the time the emails were drafted on UNCLASSIFIED systems and sent to or from Clinton’s personal server.”In other words, the USIC agencies determined that these 81 email chains, although not marked classified, contained information classified at the time the emails were sent and should have been so marked.Twelve of the 81 classified email chains were not among the 30,490 that Clinton’s lawyers had produced to the State Department, and these were all classified at the Secret or Confidential levels. Seven of the 81 email chains contained information associated with a Special Access Program (“SAP”), which witnesses told us is considered particularly sensitive. The emails containing Top Secret and SAP information were included in the 30,490 provided to the State Department.


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23:45-30:40 horo open
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28:00-29:02 comey
30:21-30:40 horo suggestion summary
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