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Sep 17 2018 02:51pm
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"Every #MeToo miscreant is a repeat offender. "

fair and balanced


how many of the high profile #MeToo miscreants have been non-repeat offenders? Its a pretty long list, maybe there's an example out there but its not any of the ones I can name offhand.
seems like every story I've read is about multiple accusers descending on {famous person}
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Sep 17 2018 02:54pm
also Goldberg weighing in too:

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-goldberg-kavanaugh-feinstein-20180917-story.html

i'll snip this one to some relevant bits
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What if Christine Blasey Ford is telling the truth that, 35 years ago, a drunken 17-year-old Brett Kavanaugh pushed her down on a bed and covered her mouth in an attempt to sexually assault her? For starters, she’ll never get justice. This will never see a court of law. There’s no way to prove it happened, not least because she cannot provide a time or place where the event allegedly occurred. The most Ford might get is vengeance by thwarting Kavanaugh’s dream of getting on the Supreme Court and destroying his reputation.

What if Ford isn’t telling the truth? If it’s a deliberate lie, the answer is easy: This is one of the worst acts of character assassination and sewer politics in modern American history, and anyone involved should be held to account by the law and voters alike. All one need do is look under the rock of social media to see countless people insisting that Kavanaugh is a proven rapist or attempted rapist. If he’s innocent, that is horrific.

But what if it’s not a deliberate lie? What if this is some terrible Rashomon-like confusion? Perhaps the events happened but Kavanaugh wasn’t the person involved. Or perhaps something did happen, but not the way she remembers. Ford never said anything specific about these events until 2012, when she was in couples’ therapy (and Kavanaugh’s name was in the news), and the details she offered then differ from what she is saying now.


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Sep 17 2018 03:10pm
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how many of the high profile #MeToo miscreants have been non-repeat offenders? Its a pretty long list, maybe there's an example out there but its not any of the ones I can name offhand.
seems like every story I've read is about multiple accusers descending on {famous person}

Those fellas Aziz Ansari and Chad Hardwick were non-repeat “#metoo ‘miscreants’” as well
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Sep 17 2018 03:41pm


Just read two articles on Reuters. The facts are still changing. Now Ford was 15 and Kavanaugh was 17. Now, Ford only had one beer, even after she stated that she doesn't remember whose house they were at OR how she got there.

Sort of sounds like someone told Ford, if this accusation destroys Kavanaugh, we are going to destroy you, even more. So now, every one is playing nice and the Reps will let the Dems and Ford, bow out w/o damage.


Just my opinion, since the "facts" of this alleged assault seem to change on a daily basis.
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Sep 17 2018 04:05pm
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Just read two articles on Reuters. The facts are still changing. Now Ford was 15 and Kavanaugh was 17. Now, Ford only had one beer, even after she stated that she doesn't remember whose house they were at OR how she got there.

Sort of sounds like someone told Ford, if this accusation destroys Kavanaugh, we are going to destroy you, even more. So now, every one is playing nice and the Reps will let the Dems and Ford, bow out w/o damage.


Just my opinion, since the "facts" of this alleged assault seem to change on a daily basis.


Do stories usually change at the start given every single news outlet puts their own bullshit spin on it? If I recall correctly, that cop who murdered that american guy in his own house changed her story as well as the days went on. Did Ford change her story or did the media change theirs?

Also, seems like she has records of her talking about it years prior with therapists, etc. Pretty damning if thats true.
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Sep 17 2018 04:19pm
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BREAKING: Senate committee to hold public hearing with Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh after sexual assault allegation, officials say

Two officials familiar with the nomination process said Monday that Kavanaugh would return to testify before the panel. The development came a day after The Washington Post published a first-person account from a woman who alleged that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her when they were in high school.


afaik 95% of the Republicans will be attending with ear plugs and a nap pillow

on 9/24 I believe so it's been delayed

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afaik 95% of the Republicans will be attending with ear plugs and a nap pillow




Did you somehow miss the breaking news that Ford would testify also?
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Sep 17 2018 04:27pm
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Did you somehow miss the breaking news that Ford would testify also?


has it been set up yet? last I heard they were still doing calls and figuring out how they would proceed after she agreed
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Sep 17 2018 04:58pm
democrats have made such fools of themselves i just think it's funny how the whole thing played out

you don't see the media covering that kavanaugh mom was the judge that foreclosed on the accusers parents back in the mid 90's

another funny thing is the story about 200 or 2000 doesn't really matter alums that didn't even go to school at the same time as the accuser signed a letter of support

i mean you really can't make this shit up can you?

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Sep 17 2018 05:03pm


I've been back and forth with Bill since the Bush years but in the era of Trump he's become a more reasonable voice

I unabashedly go hard on issues like these but I believe he is right. It should not be a he is guilty or she is lying scenario it should be a let's get to the truth (in public) investigation

I can understand the passion and frustration from the 2 female pundits that jumped his ass but agree with Bill

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