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Jun 23 2018 09:53am
Quote (Ghot @ Jun 23 2018 08:45am)
Yeah, right. Yo Beo, I've been raped and mnurdered and generally put upon, can I come live with you?

Doesn't sound so hot when familiarity make the BS so obvious.

Like this...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-elsalvador/grandmother-in-el-salvador-prays-for-detained-granddaughter-idUSKBN1JH0A2


Guess going to live with Grandma was harder than a couple 1000 mile trek with unknown ending. :/


I grew up in the same type of environment. Drugs everywhere, violence everywhere, no opportunity, women and children abused constantly and people going missing all the time

no money, no power, no safety so you flee having nothing and nowhere to go or to be accepted but it's the only chance you'll ever have

from within this very country

I know these people because I was one and a large majority of them ESPECIALLY the women and children are nothing like you think or say
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Jun 23 2018 09:56am
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I grew up in the same type of environment. Drugs everywhere, violence everywhere, no opportunity, women and children abused constantly and people going missing all the time

no money, no power, no safety so you flee having nothing and nowhere to go or to be accepted but it's the only chance you'll ever have

from within this very country

I know these people because I was one and a large majority of them ESPECIALLY the women and children are nothing like you think or say




I'd probably be a lot more understanding if they didn't ALL decide to come... here.
Why don't they go to Argentina? Or wherever?

It's just another sob story.
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Russia trolls and bots are at it again, this time taking advantage of a roiling controversy around immigration and family separation at the U.S. border, a prominent Republican senator said.

"Trolls and bots are still active on Twitter trying to deceive us," Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., tweeted Wednesday morning. "They’re even using the current family separation & immigration debate to sow discord among Americans. It is important for social media companies to expose it so everyone knows what is fake."


now the G.O.P. suddenly cares about Russian meddling, when in touches on immigration, hilarious.
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Jun 23 2018 10:05am
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I'd probably be a lot more understanding if they didn't ALL decide to come... here.
Why don't they go to Argentina? Or wherever?

It's just another sob story.


At least it's an honest one
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Jun 23 2018 01:55pm
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At least it's an honest one




Still doesn't explain why grandma's house doesn't look like some barely existing hovel, and why Cindy Madrid didn't just go to grandma's house. But instead takes a 1200 mile journey where she knows she will be detained.

Kind of looks like a big fat scam to me. Sort of a adapted chain migration scheme.
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Jun 23 2018 02:03pm
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Still doesn't explain why grandma's house doesn't look like some barely existing hovel, and why Cindy Madrid didn't just go to grandma's house. But instead takes a 1200 mile journey where she knows she will be detained.

Kind of looks like a big fat scam to me. Sort of a adapted chain migration scheme.


Nope

Women and girls are definitely facing high violence in their destroyed areas

Gangs are definitely abusing and murdering people where many are coming from

It's dishonest to represent a majority of people risking what they have left to come here as people looking to scam or cause harm

Even more and more high up republicans are acknowledging this

Like I said above. Jerk off to border security jerk off to tough enforcement against the most vulnerable in a situation

No reason to lie and mislead when it comes to the majority trying to come here
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Jun 23 2018 02:08pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 22 2018 07:53pm)
hey, venezuela has larger oil reserves than saudi-arabia, but its people are starving on the streets - I'm sure this has to do with some CIA coup from 50 years ago and nothing with socialistic mismanagement.


Damn, that completely changes everything.

My strategy didn't include somebody knowing that you can reduce all of history to one line about socialism.
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Jun 23 2018 03:19pm
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Damn, that completely changes everything.

My strategy didn't include somebody knowing that you can reduce all of history to one line about socialism.


well, are you of the opinion that "we" (= United States or "the west") are responsible for Venezuela going under in misery and chaos despite having the largest oil reserves in the world?

if yes, I'd be REALLY interested to hear how you argue for that opinion.
if no, we're agreeing on the substance and you're just pissy about it.
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Jun 23 2018 03:45pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 23 2018 03:19pm)
well, are you of the opinion that "we" (= United States or "the west") are responsible for Venezuela going under in misery and chaos despite having the largest oil reserves in the world?

if yes, I'd be REALLY interested to hear how you argue for that opinion.
if no, we're agreeing on the substance and you're just pissy about it.


More like

>Liberals think every third world country is the USA's fault
>we actually caused a lot of that though
>NU UH, THERE'S A COUNTRY THAT FAILED CUZ SOCIALISM


See why your socialism buzzword comment isn't worth responding to seriously?
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Jun 23 2018 03:54pm
Pretty sure the CIA put Chavez in power.
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