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London murder rate overtakes New York as knife crime rises

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-crime-murder/london-murder-rate-overtakes-new-york-as-knife-crime-rises-idUSKCN1HA1DH

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But British politicians and police are increasingly expressing concern about London’s rising murder rate, which is driven by a surge in knife crime. Of the 47 murders in London so far this year, 31 have been committed with knives.


Just to point out, that whether guns are legal to own or not... murder still occurs at about the same rates per population size.



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Britain’s interior ministry said it was consulting on new laws to further restrict dangerous weapons, including banning online stores from delivering knives to residential addresses and making it an offence to possess certain weapons in public.


Looks like the UK may soon be eating with... sporks. :D

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Apr 3 2018 08:29am
so a city with a muslim mayor, who thinks that terror is part and parcel of living in a big city, is turning into a swamp of violence and crime
imagine my shock

also, what a coincidence that they seem to have the exact same knife violence debate we have in germany right now
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Quote (ampoo @ Apr 3 2018 10:29am)
so a city with a muslim mayor, who thinks that terror is part and parcel of living in a big city, is turning into a swamp of violence and crime
imagine my shock

also, what a coincidence that they seem to have the exact same knife violence debate we have in germany right now




When I was in the military, I was stationed at Governor's Island NY for electronics school. Even back then, 1976, NY had a law that you could only carry a knife that was 4.1 inches long or less.
Even if knives become illegal to carry, it won't change the murder rates. People will just use a lead pipe, or a sock filled with quarters, or a garrote.

If someone is bent on killing, they will kill.
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London murder rate overtakes New York as knife crime rises


monthly extreme, news worthy that London might become as bad as NYC. Overall they'll probably stay below half of the murders in NYC, as in all the previous years.

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London murder rate overtakes New York as knife crime rises

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-crime-murder/london-murder-rate-overtakes-new-york-as-knife-crime-rises-idUSKCN1HA1DH



Just to point out, that whether guns are legal to own or not... murder still occurs at about the same rates per population size.





Looks like the UK may soon be eating with... sporks. :D


It's not about any legalities concerning buying knives. This all started spiraling out of control when the police's stop and search rules were diminished. All because, unsurprisingly, racial complaints rose.

In the end, they were put in place to get knives off the streets and they worked, but apparently people's feelings mean more than keeping dead bodies off the streets.
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When I was in the military, I was stationed at Governor's Island NY for electronics school. Even back then, 1976, NY had a law that you could only carry a knife that was 4.1 inches long or less.
Even if knives become illegal to carry, it won't change the murder rates. People will just use a lead pipe, or a sock filled with quarters, or a garrote.

If someone is bent on killing, they will kill.


certain knives are already illegal to carry here and in certain cases even possession, like switchblades for example
too bad the bad guys dont give a fuck and especially for young male migrants knives seem to be a thing they wont leave the house without

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It's not about any legalities concerning buying knives. This all started spiraling out of control when the police's stop and search rules were diminished. All because, unsurprisingly, racial complaints rose.

In the end, they were put in place to get knives off the streets and they worked, but apparently people's feelings mean more than keeping dead bodies off the streets.


fucking authoritarian

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It's not about any legalities concerning buying knives. This all started spiraling out of control when the police's stop and search rules were diminished. All because, unsurprisingly, racial complaints rose.

In the end, they were put in place to get knives off the streets and they worked, but apparently people's feelings mean more than keeping dead bodies off the streets.


Perhaps has an effect, But I can't believe that London's murder rate would triple by that alone. There is more at work.
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Yeah. The "I'm dead, but I was always politically correct" philosophy.
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Yeah. The "I'm dead, but I was always politically correct" philosophy.


Or: I cast the blame before knowing what's going on, digging my own grave.
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Quote (Knoppie @ Apr 3 2018 11:08am)
Or: I cast the blame before knowing what's going on, digging my own grave.



Yeah. That IS an issue as well.
I still blame lax immigration laws, all over the place, on that.
It's easy to blame the guy who lived his whole life in one type of cultural scenario, who gets upset when that changes. And then goes out and out of disillusionment, decides to shoot up a school, or blow up a building.

Take the middle east and even Africa or Central America, as long as there are places those people can migrate to, what motivation do they have to stay where they are and fix their countries problems.


/e And when they migrate to other countries, they bring their issues with them, which will upset the folks in the country they migrated to.

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