Quote (brmv @ Apr 30 2013 01:01am)
and there we are again, typical 'CPK001' circular reasoning - as if i wouldn't have known
I need to explain the same things to you over and over and over again until you understand it.
Quote (bentherdonethat @ Apr 30 2013 02:28am)
You'll have to clarify what you're talking about, because now you've just lost me. What conclusion have I come to that you believe is incorrect?
You said that if we add up all the Christians from the past they'd be able to convince the 5 billion living non-Christians, and for some reason disregarded all of the non-Christians from the past. And I (correctly) stated that I don't have to even back up anything I've said, because we already live in a world where the Christians of the past have not been able to convince the non-Christians of the present.
I said you overlooked some of the big names in the Bible and you said that was a plainly silly comment. I then said that because you overlooked the big names in the Bible you came to your conclusion as you did. Now I understand how you came to your conclusion but I also know where you went wrong.
Analogy: I'll use this analogy in the form of mathematics.
The Mathematics sum that you need to solve is this:
2 * 5 + 9 = ?
There are two ways you can complete this sum.
You can do 5 + 9 = 14
2 * 14 = 28
The other way you can complete the sum is to do 2 * 5 = 10
10 + 9 = 19
Conclusion:
2 * 5 + 9
2 * 5 = 10
10 + 9 = 19
2 * 5 + 9 = 19
Or
2 * 5 + 9
5 + 9 = 14
2 * 14 = 28
2 * 5 + 9 = 28
Now the point I'm making is that you can steer towards one pathway and lead to the logical end of the sum. However, the method that you did use to reach your conclusion was wrong.
So when I say you overlooked some of the big names in the Bible, it is obvious what conclusion you were going to come to: Jesus never lived.
Now in regards to the 5 billion people, they can be changed one disciple at a time. So not all will enter the kingdom of Heaven, some people just will not listen until it is too late.
Their hearts are hardened and we will mourn their loss when they feel the reality of Hell. The message is not there to brainwash you but to warn you. It is up to you to heed the warning.
We will not stop warning you either. You will be warned until the day you die.