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Nov 6 2024 06:05am
Quote (SkySwallower @ Nov 6 2024 06:54am)
Let's hope this turns out the way you want it to. I have very low expectations and fear the comming foreign policies especially regarding Ukraine.


War stops immediately": Former US Secretary of State predicts Trump's "peace plan" for Ukraine

Implement real sanctions against Russia, including the removal of exemptions for Russian banks involved in energy extraction – a crucial revenue source for the Kremlin's military machine.
Expand the American defence industry and require NATO allies to spend at least 3% of their GDP on defence.
Establish a US$500 billion "lend-lease" programme for Ukraine, which involves providing military aid on a loan basis rather than as a grant.
Remove all restrictions on the types of weapons Ukraine can receive and use.
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2024/07/26/7190993/

500 billion in lgm-30s for ukraine should probably help em out i reckon
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Nov 6 2024 06:08am
Quote (zorzin @ Nov 6 2024 01:05pm)
War stops immediately": Former US Secretary of State predicts Trump's "peace plan" for Ukraine

Implement real sanctions against Russia, including the removal of exemptions for Russian banks involved in energy extraction – a crucial revenue source for the Kremlin's military machine.
Expand the American defence industry and require NATO allies to spend at least 3% of their GDP on defence.
Establish a US$500 billion "lend-lease" programme for Ukraine, which involves providing military aid on a loan basis rather than as a grant.
Remove all restrictions on the types of weapons Ukraine can receive and use.
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2024/07/26/7190993/

500 billion in lgm-30s for ukraine should probably help em out i reckon


I also expect the war to stop very quickly, but not in favor of Ukraine. Time will tell
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Nov 6 2024 06:12am
Quote (zorzin @ 6 Nov 2024 20:05)
War stops immediately": Former US Secretary of State predicts Trump's "peace plan" for Ukraine

Implement real sanctions against Russia, including the removal of exemptions for Russian banks involved in energy extraction – a crucial revenue source for the Kremlin's military machine.
Expand the American defence industry and require NATO allies to spend at least 3% of their GDP on defence.
Establish a US$500 billion "lend-lease" programme for Ukraine, which involves providing military aid on a loan basis rather than as a grant.
Remove all restrictions on the types of weapons Ukraine can receive and use.
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2024/07/26/7190993/

500 billion in lgm-30s for ukraine should probably help em out i reckon


That will only hasten and make BRICS more and more relevant. Stupid move.
Some of them are already using CIPs for transaction not Swift.

This move will practically put the world back to a semi bi polar / multi polar world.
And we will be facing a real potential all out Nuclear War.

EU will practically die off unless they conquer and control the entire mid east and fleece their fossil fuel.
They can't afford to buy premium American OnG on a long term basis.
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Nov 6 2024 06:12am
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 6 2024 04:17am)
re-elected this loser.


actually he's the winner, in the US you need 270 electoral college votes to win and he has passed that threshold
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Nov 6 2024 06:15am
Quote (Thebarba @ Nov 6 2024 06:12am)
actually he's the winner, in the US you need 270 electoral college votes to win and he has passed that threshold


He lost in 2020 and that makes him a loser for life nonetheless. Sure be banged supermodels and became president twice and survived a bullet to the head and has a 6'9" son and is a billionaire but he's still a loser

This post was edited by Goomshill on Nov 6 2024 06:15am
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Nov 6 2024 06:17am
I'm not big on the "Trump is a fascist" rhetoric, cause that's a word I'm not even sure I understand, and him winning this election so decisively is not America choosing fascism or authoritarianism. The vast majority of people voted for him either without knowledge of, or in spite of, his authoritarian tendencies. Basically nobody, not even Goom, voted for Trump because he wants to pardon the people who beat up cops on January 6th. Almost nobody voted for him because he fantasized on stage about Liz Cheney being shot in the face. Nobody voted for him because of his numerous crimes. The vast majority of these 70+ million people never even heard about these things, or their knowledge and interest is so shallow that other issues simply overwhelmed them.

So, this is bad, I don't want to pretend it's not. But Trump winning is simply not an affirmation of all of his badness. Americans don't want Trump's enemies to be shot. They don't want America to not be a democracy.


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Nov 6 2024 06:19am
Quote (Thebarba @ 6 Nov 2024 20:12)
actually he's the winner, in the US you need 270 electoral college votes to win and he has passed that threshold


He is the come back King.
King of come backs.

I remember his business failed and he came back.
He lost a election and now he is back.
They tried putting him in jail and he is still back.

Incredible.
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Nov 6 2024 06:21am
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 6 2024 07:17am)
I'm not big on the "Trump is a fascist" rhetoric, cause that's a word I'm not even sure I understand, and him winning this election so decisively is not America choosing fascism or authoritarianism. The vast majority of people voted for him either without knowledge of, or in spite of, his authoritarian tendencies. Basically nobody, not even Goom, voted for Trump because he wants to pardon the people who beat up cops on January 6th. Almost nobody voted for him because he fantasized on stage about Liz Cheney being shot in the face. Nobody voted for him because of his numerous crimes. The vast majority of these 70+ million people never even heard about these things, or their knowledge and interest is so shallow that other issues simply overwhelmed them.

So, this is bad, I don't want to pretend it's not. But Trump winning is simply not an affirmation of all of his badness. Americans don't want Trump's enemies to be shot. They don't want America to not be a democracy.





It sounds to me like you're trying to claim that all the lefty BS attacks on Trump... were valid.
Trump is no angel, that's for sure.
But I think EVERYone knows (or has at least, finally realized), which side was trying to destroy democracy, and turn this country into a 3rd world cesspit.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 6 2024 06:24am
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