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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 8 2021 03:46am)
Side note: architects who design buildings with non-symmetrically aligned window fronts deserve capital punishment. :blush:


hahah straight to jail

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What I found striking is how closely the women-only map resembled the actual map, with Florida and North Carolina being the only misses. By contrast, the men-only map missed the mark on 10 states.
Also interesting was that Biden performed better with the $100k+ income group than the $75-99k bracket.


Women make up like 60% of the electorate now. This is a trend that may or may not be good for the future of civilization given their lack of accountability.

Trump won with high income people, not Biden.

This is only natural because people with 100K+ income have high IQ.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 7 2021 10:44pm)
What I found striking is how closely the women-only map resembled the actual map, with Florida and North Carolina being the only misses. By contrast, the men-only map missed the mark on 10 states.
Also interesting was that Biden performed better with the $100k+ income group than the $75-99k bracket.


the income maps are a bit tricky imo due to the massive differences in the states

100k in cali or some some areas in the northeast and you barely escape sleeping in your car, elsewhere you can live extremely well with the same money
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the income maps are a bit tricky imo due to the massive differences in the states

100k in cali or some some areas in the northeast and you barely escape sleeping in your car, elsewhere you can live extremely well with the same money


Yeah, the income trends are confounded by age, education and, as you said, the urban vs rural divide. Either way, these maps reinforce the fact that polarization along income lines has been decreasing from a peak in 2012 through 2016 and reached a low point in 2020, while polarization by education has gone up. (Polarization by race and gender peaked in 2016 and went down a little in 2020.)
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the income maps are a bit tricky imo due to the massive differences in the states

100k in cali or some some areas in the northeast and you barely escape sleeping in your car, elsewhere you can live extremely well with the same money


If you make 100k in income in California, you qualify for unemployment, Medicaid (healthcare for the poor), food stamps, and supplemental income. Middle class in CA requires an income of 300K per year and upper middle class requires an income of 750K per year.
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If you make 100k in income in California, you qualify for unemployment, Medicaid (healthcare for the poor), food stamps, and supplemental income. Middle class in CA requires an income of 300K per year and upper middle class requires an income of 750K per year.


Isn't rent for a tiny one bedroom apartment in SF something like $4k per month, lol?
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If you make 100k in income in California, you qualify for unemployment, Medicaid (healthcare for the poor), food stamps, and supplemental income. Middle class in CA requires an income of 300K per year and upper middle class requires an income of 750K per year.


Rofl
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 7 2021 03:36pm)
Isn't rent for a tiny one bedroom apartment in SF something like $4k per month, lol?


It was a few years ago but I don't know how COVID has impacted things up there.
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 7 Oct 2021 18:20)
the income maps are a bit tricky imo due to the massive differences in the states

100k in cali or some some areas in the northeast and you barely escape sleeping in your car, elsewhere you can live extremely well with the same money


Quote (Black XistenZ @ 7 Oct 2021 18:25)
Yeah, the income trends are confounded by age, education and, as you said, the urban vs rural divide. Either way, these maps reinforce the fact that polarization along income lines has been decreasing from a peak in 2012 through 2016 and reached a low point in 2020, while polarization by education has gone up. (Polarization by race and gender peaked in 2016 and went down a little in 2020.)


yeah it really is unique to the US being so large and different across states. Sure you have London vs Birmingham or Berlin vs Dresden or whatever. But it is very extreme in the US.

where I primarily live the median US salary makes you poor as a single person unless you have 2 roommates in a tiny apartment (flat) sharing 1-2 bathroom(s) . where my secondary location is the median would be quite comfortable even with a small family in a townhouse.

what will be interesting is how remote working changes prices and income levels in the next 5 years. if i were so inclined i’d be tempted to move to some small town in south dakota or nebraska or some small beach town in new hampshire and pay next to nothing in rent for a 2 bedroom 2 bath, and sock away my income due to working remote fully now.

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yeah it really is unique to the US being so large and different across states. Sure you have London vs Birmingham or Berlin vs Dresden or whatever. But it is very extreme in the US.

where I primarily live the median US salary makes you poor as a single person unless you have 2 roommates in a tiny apartment (flat) sharing 1-2 bathroom(s) . where my secondary location is the median would be quite comfortable even with a small family in a townhouse.

what will be interesting is how remote working changes prices and income levels in the next 5 years. if i were so inclined i’d be tempted to move to some small town in south dakota or nebraska or some small beach town in new hampshire and pay next to nothing in rent for a 2 bedroom 2 bath, and sock away my income due to working remote fully now.


The proper comparison for the U.S. in terms of population as well as geographic and economic diversity is Europe in its entirety, not a single European country. And in that case, the variation in cost of living is even more extreme in Europe. A single year of rent for an apartment in inner London or the good districts of Paris buys you the same apartment in Plovdiv, Bulgaria or similar places.

Heck, Germany's current economic model relies in no small part on exploiting droves of Eastern European workers with starvation wages which only add up for them because the rest of their family lives in Poland/Romania/Bulgaria.
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