The argument for illegal settlements in WB has been reduced to “there is little proximate harm by their existence”

A lot of yikes, frankly, dishonesty

Let’s do a role play for how this would play out in Texas if a bunch of Mexicans tried forcing Americans out of their homes.

It’s ok. There’s little proximate harm. The violence that will ensue is mutual.

Lol

Separately, It is a huge mistake to be linking policy between WB and Gaza. The two are not interchangeable.

This post was edited by Bazi on Nov 6 2023 03:29pm

Keep your flames for you and your inner circle please.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Nov 6 2023 03:30pm

"Settlements arent bad because both sides do harm", ummmmm self defense has entered the chat.

keep your rage-spam out of this thread and i will not bring up how you falsely pretended to be "Female" for years in your d2jsp profile

When America won the American-Mexican war, the territory of Texas was fully annexed by the USA, and settled by Americans.

If you don't have a problem with this, you also shouldn't have a problem with Israelis settling the West Bank

To add, plenty of Mexicans have settled in Texas. Spanish is the de facto second language of the USA and there are plenty of Mexican nationals living there

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 6 2023 03:37pm

It's 2023 now and being transgender is okay, not sure why he stays closeted...

"Dishonesty"?
Do you want to pretend that every time an Israeli settlement is constructed in Area C, its made by forcing Palestinians out of their homes and squatting in them?
Settlements are constructed. They are occupying the land. They aren't made by taking Palestinian homes, but rather building their own.
And unlike Texas, which is a sovereign state under a sovereign federal American government, Israel is the only sovereign nation with claim to the West Bank and exercises full military control over it.

The biggest proximate complaint Palestinians in the west bank have over settlement construction is that Israel approves new construction for Israeli settlements and not Palestinian ones. As if Mexico already had full control over Texas, and approved a bunch of new Mexican housing in the middle of some empty fields but denied Texans from building new housing and left them to their existing footprint, and the demolitions they perform on new illegal housing that wasn't approved.

Israelis are and have been occupying Palestinian homes in addition to building new homes for literal decades, there are myriad examples of this in writing and on video free for you to see for yourself

Before I respond, and with the assumption you’re arguing in good fait, contrary to Iraq and tariff arguments we have had in the past

Are you attempting to make the argument that the settling is legal

In other words, that the Palestinians do not have a legal right to the land in the West Bank

This post was edited by Bazi on Nov 6 2023 04:15pm

To give an example, here's a picture of Ma'ale Adumim today, a settlement in Area C of the West Bank about 4 miles east of Jerusalem, smack in the middle of the Judean desert



It was mostly unoccupied throughout history, then between 1945 and 1967 some Bedouins resettled there to use as grazing, and the Palestinian landowners under Jordan lost their control of the land in the Six Day War, and the Israelis started construction on settlements in the 70s and made it into a city in the 90s. The Israelis maintain that the land they used to build it was not registered in anyones name and contained no private property, while Palestinians say it expropriated land from historical villages, with Abu Dis being about two miles southwest. But either way, it was clearly an empty stretch of desert. Eventually as both Abu Dis and Ma'ale Adumim both expanded, they now border each other with the closest line of Palestinian and Israeli houses about a thousand feet from each other.



Arguing over settling being legal or illegal and any other nonsense premised in international law to which no parties are subject, is the same kind of farce as geopolitical moralizing arguments, except even less grounded in reality.
Palestinians have as much legal right to the land in the West Bank as Israel gives them, no more, no less. Israel took it in the six day war, that's the geopolitical reality. The only applicable laws to settlement construction are the ones Israel sets on itself.