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UBI isn’t socialist. Just for the record. It’s a tool of capitalism.
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UBI isn’t socialist. Just for the record. It’s a tool of capitalism.


It's a cash dividend payed out by the state to citizens, who are the collective owners of the means of production.
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You are contradicting the exact point you were making earlier in this thread.


I don't see a contradiction there. If you're freshly unemployed from a professional job it's actually not advisable to even bother applying to things that are so far below you at that point. It's going to hurt your career to take a 3 month stint at Wendy's instead of spending more time networking and applying for jobs that are in your career.
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It's a cash dividend payed out by the state to citizens, who are the collective owners of the means of production.



If you break into my house and take everything and then hand me back a penny you found on the floor it is not a dividend.
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If you break into my house and take everything and then hand me back a penny you found on the floor it is not a dividend.

inky the libertarian
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inky the libertarian


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If you can't afford to pay your employees then you can't afford to stay in business. You aren't entitled to labor you dork lol.




True. Now imagine when government also comes in and tells you, you can operate at only 25% capacity for many months, offers your employees 600+usual unemployment benefits for a year now, what happens to that business?

It's funny how in practice you guys on the left are blatantly anti-small businesses and are cheering on more of the middle class being transferred to the lower class, meanwhile large corporations are raking in record profits.

Jeff Bezos and co. thanks you for your service. Your mindset is one of the primary reasons why they are where they are in this brave new world.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ May 6 2021 06:09pm)
True. Now imagine when government also comes in and tells you, you can operate at only 25% capacity for many months, offers your employees 600+usual unemployment benefits for a year now, what happens to that business?

It's funny how in practice you guys on the left are blatantly anti-small businesses and are cheering on more of the middle class being transferred to the lower class, meanwhile large corporations are raking in record profits.

Jeff Bezos and co. thanks you for your service. Your mindset is one of the primary reasons why they are where they are in this brave new world.


They can't see that while buying everything from Amazon and making Bezos even richer while all their mom n pop stores close .

Welcome to the Corporate world where your credit score is everything .

All it took was a fake political virus to transfer a huge % of the poor/middle class wealth towards the rich. Guess why walmart was still open while claiming small shop are too much at risk while Walmart and other super centers are much worst but still open during the worst period of the "pandemic"

These clowns will work the rest of their lives to maintain their credit score while smart people like me will own lands/everything needed to survive outside the shit system they adore so much. Renting in 2021 lol...

This post was edited by SunnyvaleTrailerPark on May 6 2021 04:30pm
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inky the libertarian



Yep I’m a libertarian communist. But you’ve always known this.

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You are contradicting the exact point you were making earlier in this thread.


Oh I just realized. You think this is contradictory because you're conflating unemployment benefits with UBI.

Sorry, I didn't realize because it's a really dumb point to make.

Under UBI you don't lose it for going back to work. That's the key difference.
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