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Apr 12 2023 04:17pm

Quote (Meanwhile @ Apr 4 2023 06:09pm)

insulting =/= criticizing
Yellow vest anti-all at its best level. Such a cancer because these people are discrediting the value of real protests.

Either way. The idea that she can be criminally charged for insulting him is preposterous.

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Apr 12 2023 05:21pm

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Apr 12 2023 05:32pm

Quote (Santara @ 13 Apr 2023 00:17)

Either way. The idea that she can be criminally charged for insulting him is preposterous.

Yes it's shocking at the first look but...

In U.S you have the whole public shaming, people have their face exposed instantly even for small offenses, seems it's even possible to know people's political party etc... Well that's a pity and it can ruin careers/lives.

This is under protection by privacy laws here, and you can sue people violating your privacy at various levels. The law condemning insults (applies to anyone) exists in the same way finally: to protect people from abusive bullying, harassment.
Now back to the insults to the President: there's a law to protect him specifically because he also represents... People who voted for him...

So on one hand i'm hesitating because he's a public figure and can't avoid insults, but on the other hand this woman's behavior clearly reminds me a form of "free hate speech"... It is still a stupid call for violence, chaos, especially in these protest times.

She will probably not even be sentenced in june anyway, or something very light, but she deserves it because exactly like i said: Yellow vest anti-all cancer discrediting the value of real protests.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Apr 12 2023 05:33pm

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lmao

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 12 2023 11:08pm)

I'm kinda over having these same debates again and again, but let me chime in for this specific point: do you realize that NATO member Turkey has the ability to close off the Bosporus any time they see fit and thus turn Russia's Black Sea fleet into an inland water navy? If push comes to shove, Sevastopol being ice free only helps Russia maintain a naval presence in front of tiny, geographically inaccessible countries like Georgia or Armenia, but not any further. This point is such a red herring.

Means absolutely NOTHING as far as losing Crimea / Sevastopol is concerned. Turkey can block it forever and Russia will still have it's naval base and NATO in that case doesn't, which is important to the Russians.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 12 2023 11:08pm)

You conveniently don't mention that the Euromaidan protests started out peacefully and that Ukraine's president let his 'Berkut' special police violently crack down on the protesters.

Has nothing to do with the fact that the West orchestrated Maidan speeches and it's still unclear what exactly happened because shots were fired from the protester's side first, aimed at the police after which the police used a lot of force. You know that right or don't you? (watch vid BBC article linked below)

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Apr 12 2023 11:08pm)

So fucking what? Of course the West tried to tip the scales in his favor once the situation in Ukraine became volatile and the revolution/insurrection/coup was on its way. Russia tried to do the same, but failed. There's nothing inherently nefarious or discrediting about that.

The West orchestrated that it's clear as day. The fucking speeches speak for themselves, lol

The west planned another round of NATO expansion, going for a couple countries that have a shit GDP of a couple hundred billion dollars, are corrupt shit holes, high crime rates and so on, the only fucking reason is their geographic locations

This was the news before the war started, you won't hear this anymore BX. Watch the BBC vid https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-31435719

Comments posted below the vid:

Literally says Euromaidan caused Russia to annex Crimea:

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The massacre triggered the collapse of Ukraine's pro-Russian government, prompting Moscow to annex Crimea and sparking a separatist war in the east.

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At the time, riot police were blamed for the deaths, but they were not the only ones shooting that day.

Try again BX