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Mar 18 2022 11:04am
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I've been opposing Republican attempts to censor free speech as long as you've been carrying water for nazi war criminals, its a whole life pursuit.


so not at all. no wonder we don't ever see you opposing their censorship efforts here. again, the only speech you're outspoken about protecting is right wing hate speech.
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Mar 18 2022 11:15am
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so not at all. no wonder we don't ever see you opposing their censorship efforts here. again, the only speech you're outspoken about protecting is right wing hate speech.


is there any other speech under attack? serious question.
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is there any other speech under attack? serious question.


serious question? serious question.

https://apnews.com/article/business-florida-lawsuits-ron-desantis-racial-injustice-3ec10492b7421543315acf4491813c1b

https://legiscan.com/OK/text/SB1470/id/2484266

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No public school of this state, as defined pursuant to Section 1-106 of Title 70 of the Oklahoma Statutes, shall employ or contract with a person that promotes positions in the classroom or at any function of the public school that is in opposition to closely held religious beliefs of students.


plus "don't say gay" bill in FL. book bans in texas, south dakota, and others...

or this gem here:



don't tell me you aren't aware of any of those, and that goon-shill, a self-proclaimed free speech absolutist (along all the other right wing hacks who only ever complain about "free speech" being "under attack" when it comes to hate speech), is strangely quiet regarding those issues.



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Mar 18 2022 12:17pm
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serious question? serious question.

https://apnews.com/article/business-florida-lawsuits-ron-desantis-racial-injustice-3ec10492b7421543315acf4491813c1b

https://legiscan.com/OK/text/SB1470/id/2484266



plus "don't say gay" bill in FL. book bans in texas, south dakota, and others...

or this gem here:

https://i.imgur.com/RbgNCeH.jpeg

don't tell me you aren't aware of any of those, and that goon-shill, a self-proclaimed free speech absolutist (along all the other right wing hacks who only ever complain about "free speech" being "under attack" when it comes to hate speech), is strangely quiet regarding those issues.

https://i.imgur.com/mTzLWjk.png


do you think Goom is in support of those bans? i dont.

my point was if you're "pro free speech" in the last 10 years your advocacy is almost indistinguishable from "pro hate speech". and really that's been the case for most of it's history. we had whole segments in undergrad pre-law devoted to how shitty your support becomes if you're for free speech on principal, from flag burning to lawn signs saying god hates fags.

im as pro free speech as goom, i just cheer loudly when people are ruined because of the stupid things they say.
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do you think Goom is in support of those bans? i dont.

my point was if you're "pro free speech" in the last 10 years your advocacy is almost indistinguishable from "pro hate speech". and really that's been the case for most of it's history. we had whole segments in undergrad pre-law devoted to how shitty your support becomes if you're for free speech on principal, from flag burning to lawn signs saying god hates fags.

im as pro free speech as goom, i just cheer loudly when people are ruined because of the stupid things they say.


goon-shill regularly makes posts and threads about alleged attacks on free speech when it comes to right wing hate speech. he doesn't do that when republicans ban books with honest history, biology, and lgtbq topics. if he actually opposes those efforts and but is silent for partisan reason, he's just a hack - if he doesn't care about it because it's simply not a principled position of his, he's a hypocrite. neither of which particularly flattering...

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goon-shill regularly makes posts and threads about alleged attacks on free speech when it comes to right wing hate speech. he doesn't do that when republicans ban books with honest history, biology, and lgtbq topics. if he actually opposes those efforts and but is silent for partisan reason, he's just a hack - if he doesn't care about it because it's simply not a principled position of his, he's a hypocrite. neither of which particularly flattering...


i cant find it, i thought i made a thread but seems no, where i brought the texas book ban to pard and iirc goom was against it. but i dont think he'd argue he presents fair and balanced posts. he's right wing with a minnesota news bias, and doesnt make any qualms about it.
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22 yr old trans 'female' Lia Thomas mops Olympic silver medalist Emma Weyant. I'm actually kind of happy this type of abomination is taking place in women's sports. The longer it goes on, the more people will probably be against this type of degeneracy and we'll see pendulum swing in the opposite direction.

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ATLANTA, GA — Lia Thomas made history Thursday night when she became the first transgender woman to win an NCAA swimming championship at Georgia Tech.

Taking control of the final 100 yards in the 500-yard freestyle race, Lia Thomas, a University of Pennsylvania senior, eked out a win against Sarasota swimmer Emma Weyant, an Olympic silver medalist.


https://patch.com/florida/sarasota/transgender-swimmer-beats-sarasota-olympian-ncaa-championship
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22 yr old trans 'female' Lia Thomas mops Olympic silver medalist Emma Weyant. I'm actually kind of happy this type of abomination is taking place in women's sports. The longer it goes on, the more people will probably be against this type of degeneracy and we'll see pendulum swing in the opposite direction.



https://patch.com/florida/sarasota/transgender-swimmer-beats-sarasota-olympian-ncaa-championship


on a JRE thread someone got downvoted into hell for saying "it was only 1.75 seconds" without realizing people usually win by tenths or hundredths of a second. let alone over Olympic medalists.
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Mar 22 2022 11:34am
https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2022/03/22/when_public_school_teachers_are_paid_more_students_perform_better_822893.html

lots of people not reading the data correctly. higher paying districts will grab the best applicants, but raising pay across the board wont have the same 1:1 relationship.

in other words fewer good teachers will enter the field that otherwise wouldnt teach than the pay raise intends. and you'll just be paying bad teachers more. the issue is teachers unions which have removed market forces from the equation in many places.
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