meanwhile in reality:

meanwhile in reality most people still dont need this vaccination, natural immunity is confirmed superior

that's like saying "surviving the accident is superior to wearing a seatbelt".

"natural immunity", lol. that is such a stupid talking point, which only literal science-denying spreadneck karens would consider a valid argument against the vaccine. it's almost like you fundamentally don't understand how vaccines work.

it's an even shittier "argument" when you consider the age distribution of "white evangelicals", a huge part of which fall squarely into covid high risk groups.

meanwhile you bring zero solution hiding behind a multi in a video game forum.

then celebrate covid decimating the people you hate so much (which you are doing i am sure)

i cant believe this discussion has reached a point where self proclaimed pro science people are calling the human immune system a "stupid talking point"

we literally had the cdc et cetera confirmation here, that a normal infection produces a superior and longer lasting protection

no healthy person below age ~40 or so needs this vaccine, however you wont find a single post of mine that ever disputed the vaccine being extremely useful for a lot of people (especially in the country of walmart legends)

you dont care about other people and science is only what feeds your narrative, the only reason you are so aggressive is that people are not doing what you want them to do, you little wannabe goebbels



where is yours exactly you little genius?

Vaccination and respecting restriction like real men do

yes

to stay with the analogy, i'm not saying "accidents" are a stupid talking point, and it's for sure awesome to survive one, but that is still no argument against seatbelts.

you are conflating two entirely different arguments in order to perpetuate your science-denying covid karen narrative. the whole "it only affects me, so if i'm in a low risk group i shouldn't take it" talking point has been debunked a thousand times, you're just not smart and honest enough to understand that. you're all-in on ignorance and anti-intellectualism. that's why you cherry pick the information that you like (the immune system of covid survivors producing a stronger immunity as a reaction to the virus and its 29 proteins than a vaccination training it with just one spike protein - no shit?! again, you're just illustrating that you fundamentally don't understand how vaccinations work) while dismissing the recommendations from the SAME source about what to do (every adult to be vaccinated).

fucking flat-earthers...

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

Remove the tax havens and you're left with Norway and the United States. The PPP per capita picture doesn't look all that different.



Your argument is a truism. European social safety nets are good because they're good. When we look at weighted calculations (e.g. HDI) that try to account for life expectancy, education, and wealth, we don't find that more social spending is necessarily better. Given how unhealthy Americans like to eat (our food is both affordable and plentiful), I'm shocked that the United States scores that highly. I'm really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

And as I said, the United States is a country on scale with the European Union. There's enormous geographic and economic diversity. Alabama is no more going to be as wealthy as Massachusetts as Greece is going to be as wealthy as Norway. But when we take it as a whole, we see that the American model has worked to provide a comparatively higher standard of living.

I'm not here to shit on the EU's spending decisions, I am pointing out that your portrayal of the United States doesn't match reality. It is a different model that, despite shouldering the defensive burden of freeloaders, has consistently delivered some of the highest living standards in the world.

what fender refuses to understand that the system in the us accepts more poverty in return for more freedom and opportunity

why are people lining up at the border to get into the states? for the opportunities you have there

as for europe, safety nets are nice and all, but in return governments take like half your paycheck before you ever touch it, keeping people poor with little savings, when you have no real estate inheritance from your parents

in the united states poverty is a choice, in europe the state pushes you down

thats the difference